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New Ducati on the way ?
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It doesn't feel like the Monster 696 was that long ago to me. It was "affordable"
Relax
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I don't know how much I trust RideApart (at least this article). A couple other articles I read both say it could be a smaller V4, which makes way more sense from a manufacturing perspective to share a single chassis and single motor (with two capacities) like they've done for ages with the 916/748, 999,749, 1x98/848. Using the 939 Testastretta seems like going backwards - and besides, which frame would they use?
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www.cycleworld.com
The Panigale V2 Superquadro’s Final Act
Ducati’s V-2 Superquadro entered service in 2012 with the Panigale 1199. It will disappear after the 555 2025 Panigale V2 Superquadro Final Editions are delivered.
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That article misses out on the fact that the goal of the mid-sized supersport is homologation.
The current 937cc engine makes 40hp less than the outgoing V2. That's going to be nowhere near competitive enough for WSS.
Smart money's on a brand new engine, as no other powerplant in their current lineup is good enough for racing. 600cc V4 (as per the current rules) is a good bet.
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As a current owner of the 937 SS. I find that the torque is more important than HP for evetyday street use. I think the curent model does a good job of balancing comfort and sport. There is always room for improvement. But going down to a smaller engine with potentially more power but less useable torque may be a step backwards. Seriously how many riders actually use these bikes on a track ? So not sure if Ducati is considering this.
Bump.
So I believe this is the new engine that the article was hinting at:
890cc, lighter-weight engine, variable valve timing.
The output numbers correspond roughly to an upgrade path for the current Testastretta 11° engine, making about 10hp more, which a lot of folks think this will make its way into the Monster, Supersport, Hyper and DesertX. Perhaps this may be an eventuality, but I think the focus on Euro 5+ compliance and compact size means it might show up first inside a high-output version of the Scrambler - the 1100cc version of which was recently discontinued.
Edit: And of course, in the "Project 2102" bike - whatever 2025 model they're coming out with to be their more affordable sportbike in their lineup.
I still maintain this engine is not a Panigale V2 Superquadro replacement. So so down on power...
So I believe this is the new engine that the article was hinting at:
890cc, lighter-weight engine, variable valve timing.
The output numbers correspond roughly to an upgrade path for the current Testastretta 11° engine, making about 10hp more, which a lot of folks think this will make its way into the Monster, Supersport, Hyper and DesertX. Perhaps this may be an eventuality, but I think the focus on Euro 5+ compliance and compact size means it might show up first inside a high-output version of the Scrambler - the 1100cc version of which was recently discontinued.
Edit: And of course, in the "Project 2102" bike - whatever 2025 model they're coming out with to be their more affordable sportbike in their lineup.
I still maintain this engine is not a Panigale V2 Superquadro replacement. So so down on power...
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Relax
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Less than a week to find out:
5 November 2024, 16.00 CET: Extended Experience
Explore the next models to be presented during the Ducati World Première that have the new V2 twin as their beating heart.
Eeenteresting.
So I bet the "Extended Experience" might be the new V2 Sportbike
And "Unlock Everyday Adventure" might be the 1100 Scrambler replacement?
Priller
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Ha! Had written a longer post about how I felt this way about every Ducati sportbike post-999, but then realised I just sounded like an old man shouting at clouds. I think, like music, one's taste mostly solidifies as you pass 30, and the only new stuff you like after that is stuff that reminds you of the old stuff you already like.
e.g. I don't think there's a modern sportbike that looks a patch on any of my favourites:
1. RC30
2. ZX-7R
3. RC51
4. 916/996/998
5. 1st gen RSV4
6. last-gen RSV1000R
7. 1st gen R1
8. CBR900RR
9. MV Agusta F4 1000
10. 1st gen ZX-10R
I suspect, looking at that list, that it would be possible to work out my age with some degree of accuracy...
Undertail exhaust and nothing trimmed for atmospheric flight, so it has my interest just on that 
They gave the V2 streetfighter the same treatment....
Fuzzbuster
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We are the same age
Yep, Desmo is gone on this engine ... seems the way Ducati is moving as I'm sure people are fed up with doing valve jobs every 12k ... right @mimico_polak ?
Only done em once! Hoping bike is gone by the second time!
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