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My early stage HUD display

yellowlemon

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I've been reading a lot of forums how people wish there was a HUD display for motorcyclist. There has been pros and cons for having it and as much as I understand the cons I lean more towards the pro side. So, secretly for the past couple years I've been making my own. Mostly to see if the technology was available to easily produce one. When I started this the technology was lacking to make a universal, easy setup, no cord tangle system. Yes, hard to believe that in two years technology changed so much that things we dreamed of can now be real. Although my setup isn't 100% the tech is available now for me to make the update more easily.

Took me some time to find a way to throw all this stuff together and fit into a helmet. Not only just fit, but make it universal. Naturally the biggest challenge was how/where to place the display so it doesn't block the view and yet be visible.

After a while I managed to get it all to fit and have been test running it for a year. The rear view camera was nice. Worked as I hoped but I later on realized that come night fall it's useless. The camera would require both day and night capability. The use of my iphone with a nav app like tomtom was perfect. I could see where I had to go, the app's speeding warning option told me if I was going too fast, plus i could play music as I rode. One of the downfalls at the time was stupid popup messages like texts or email notifications. At the time the iOS was 3.0 and when ever you got a message pop up it would stay there until you clicked on something, which while riding is not so easy. Now the new iOS takes care of that.

The only thing I never go around to do was try to get the camera and nav app to work together so that I could switch back and forth easily. This was more of a software issue so I didn't bother. After a while I just took out the camera part. It was nice to have and knowing it could be done was enough for me.

As you can see from the pictures there are wires that come out of the helmet to feed into the iphone. Much like anything else you get used to it. What's great though is that with the advancement of bluetooth, all this can be wireless. With the exception of the black box that controls the display. But yet another technology advancement is the ski/snowboard goggles by recon instruments. They've managed to make that black box smaller and have it bluetooth compatible. And now contour helmet cam company has joined forces with recon instruments to integrate the two together via bluetooth. I love it when companies get together to make something worth while. As you can see, my HUD piece is not too far off from what recon instruments created. They're just looks nicer. =P

The placement of the display can be done left or right depending on what your dominant eye is and it's pretty much universal. From most helmets that I've had the chance to look at I found that there was a small gap at the front where the liner slips in. I created a tab with adjustable hinges to fit in there and you can move it to fit your view. The best part about having it up there is that it's out of the way from regular view. If you want to see the HUD you look up or if you have pretty good control of your eyes you can have it right in front of you. It's like looking at a sign on a glass store front. Your eyes can focus on the sign that's on the glass or look past it and focus on the stuff inside the store.

Ive created a simulation photo of how it would look. I've tried taking actual pictures of it while functioning but all you see is just a bright square where the display is. The simulation is pretty close to what I see with the exception of the black frame that holds the display that I didn't include. Because it's a mono display one eye sees the HUD the other sees the street and the brain overlaps them together to make the HUD look translucent. If I really need to see the HUD I close one eye (when I'm stopped of course). It's really hard to imagine how the view works. The biggest part people have a hard time accepting is that you can see from such a small screen. It's one of those things where you just have to try it to believe it.

Incorporating RPMs, gear position, speed, ODO, would all be dependent on being able to connect to the bike's computer which is not something I'm ready to do with my bike yet. But it is possible.

So all you wishing for a HUD, your wish is just around the corner. It is possible. I've proved that it can be done so you should expect it soon. I'd give it a year. If it doesn't I'll jump on it and make it. =P

PS- During my test runs I noticed a few bikers looking at me and the wires coming out of my helmet all confused. If you're one of the few, now you know what that was all about. LOL.
 

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That's pretty cool. But that big blop in my vision would drive me crazy.
You need to make it project onto the back of the visor.
Then you would have a product.
 
They have the ones for the ski goggles. I think the main problem with this as a product in the States is you open yourself up to a lot of petty lawsuits, people blaming it for accidents.

I had a HUD for my car that came with a small 'sticker' for the inside of the window that was slightly mirrored so that the HUD was much clearer but still see through.
 
I don't even want to think about what will happen to the person's face in case of a fall and with that thing inside the helmet...
 
interesting application of existing technology.
Jimmy Spithill wore sunglasses with HUD projecting on the lens in the last America Cup races four years ago. Money makes everything available.
 
Kudos to you, yellowlemon! It's not anything I could ever envision myself using, but I am impressed with your idea and the way in which you made it into reality. You might be on to something here, you might want to consider patenting it.
 
wow! Neat!

I am a super techno-gizmo geek and if I can get my GPS / etc etc etc all to display into my visior I would be set.
 
very cool product... The only limiting thing I can see is that you have to use it with an iPhone.
 
Impressive effort, but I think it needs to be more invisible, if that makes sense. I stare at computer screens enough, so having something hovering in front of my face while riding would be a deal-breaker.

Projected onto the visor? Yes. All the time? No. Maybe a trigger switch that activates the HUD, similar to a glance at the instruments. Perhaps interval settings would be a good idea, too. Speed/tach/shift at set speed/distance/time intervals, with the GPS overlay appearing to assist navigation at intersections/turns.

I hate gear and gizmos, even though I use them. I want technology to bring me freedom, not another product to put on the shopping list--and electronics are the worst. Quickly obsolete, fragile and battery powered.
 
Always a fan of DIY. very cool.

the RECON is out now and pretty cheap. $250-400. it has gps, lcd, speedomoeter etc, fits in ski goggles and has a wireless controller with big buttons.
MEC has one on display.
I'm sure it would be simple to adapt to a motorcycle helmet even with just some tape.

http://www.gizmag.com/recon-next-gen-in-goggle-display-technology-revealed/17582/

reconready.jpg

like others said though, I'm curious if in an accident you could get blamed for being distracted.

with the RECON I found you had to angle it just perfectly positioned or it took too long to focus on, which would be a distraction. it was a bit weird trying to focus on something close up, then far away. I'd be curious to try it while riding and see if it was better or worse
 
Thanks for the comments!

With regards to it being distracting/hovering/in the way; at first use it is quite obvious that it's there, but after some use you dont really take too much notice. this sits at eyebrow level so it's not too bad. I do agree the less it looks like it's there the better but if this was the best it could go as far as minimalism goes, it's not too bad.

With regards to in case of a fall; not having tested this in an accident I cannot really say much about it other than this sits inside so the visor does come down. If I was to take a hit, worse case scenario visor first, I'd be more afraid of the debris and shatters of the accident and visor. not saying that it's completely safe, I do understand that it has its hazards.

With regards to a projector on visor; i agree i would totally jump on this if i could. this would make things a lot cleaner and would answer the safety issues. I've been some what keeping up with all these technologies and although projecting on to a clear screen isn't a new concept it's only this year that the technology is coming out to make this work better. Cars with projectors on the windshield were done before but they had their problems. They worked best at night and they required something a translucent sticker) on the glass where the projector hit to make it visible. projecting on glass was always an issue. Now companies are creating transparent glass tvs and monitors. This is the 21 century people. Our anime dreams are slowly coming to life! This would be the more ideal and better choice. the image comes straight out of the glass rather than projecting it. when this technology is more widely available i'll jump on the chance to upgrade but until then, this will have to do.

With regards to only working on an iphone; yeah sorry, i would love to make this more universally compatible but i was limited to the tech that was available at the time. android wasn't around and other phones were using their own proprietary OS. Plus the display control box was also a limiting factor.

With regards to being at fault for being distracted; very good question. indeed.. but i can't imagine it being any different than a GPS in the car. Much like the recon goggles, the display is off to the side so it's not obstructing view. I see it more like a rear view mirror scenario. It's always there, it's always showing you something, it's up to you to decide when to look at it. So if you're in an accident for looking at it when the road ahead wasn't clear then i guess the same applies to the HUD. It's y our fault for not paying attention to the road ahead.

If anybody is interested in trying it out I would be more than happy to meet up and have you take a look and try it. They only issue right now is that the new iphone OS disabled video output display GRR but there is a jailbreak app that can counter it but it's still being updated to work for the new OS. GRR. So, no GPS but it does accept RCA inputs so I can hook it up to a camera and you get the idea of the display.

I'm waiting for the season to start and head up to some gatherings and have others try it.
 
Very neat! Would be cool to try to see what it is like. Since it is on an iOS device, have you thought about Siri/Voice Control components so you can use it while on the move - not requiring stopping to change any inputs?
Great job though, very resourceful.
 
Wonder if you could wire the turn signal indicators into it so that we don't forget to turn them off?
 
Pretty cool, but instead of looking up at the HUD you can just look down for free...
 
You are spending your time doing something you should be proud of even it ends up a one-off held together with duct tape and heat shrink.
http://www.gizmag.com/kawasaki-set-...ays-and-collision-avoidance-technology/11900/

Of course I've been butchering electronics and voiding warranties for fun going beyond 4 decades so my view may be skewed and a little blurry from solder fumes.

:thumbup: on voiding warranties!
It may not be broken, but it can be better!
 
Another thought occurred to me, regarding the intrusive nature of the display. If you want to make it less intrusive then you might want to get hold of a Reevu helmet, pop the back off it, and see if you can get a good enough view of your display through the rear view mirror. I believe that GP Bikes carries them. At least I saw one there, last fall.

[video=youtube;TaMSXgB3PVA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaMSXgB3PVA[/video]
 

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