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My bike "too small" for highway?

People have a bunch of old Maxims and Viragos from the 1980s, still on the road! It's amazing.
But that bike will be just fine.
The idea is, you'll be working it hard though, up and down through the gears with plenty of throttle heheh...
But that's really what the fun of riding is all about, isn't it.
Personally: I'm alarmed at the ascension of the 700-lb. motorcycle.
Lots of big heavy rigs being sold these days, many even 800 pounds or more.
Whereas I'd rather be on your 535, it's more fun!
So don't listen,
Regards
 
I rode a XV535 from '87 to '92 and, during that time, made more than a few trips to Montreal on it. Also commuted to work on it, on the 401 and 427. You just have to realize that it doesn't have the power of a Litre bike.
 
Seriously, what retarded riders are you hearing this from?

I rode for a year on a Kawisaki Vulcan 500 and on the 400 series highways in my second year of riding. It's not what you ride, but how you ride it and your ability to control yourself and the bike.

Can your vehicle do a 100km for an hour or more? Because the last time I checked that's the speed limit on the 400 series highways. And since the only lanes that have a blocking position are the right and left, You should be fine. The right lane rarely exceeds a 100 so the need for extreme accelaration for passing is also rare. Stay out of other drivers blind spots. With regards to truck, stay in his mirrors or be in front of the truck so that you can see the truck in your rearview mirrors.

Try to practice out on Sunday mornings when traffic is a little lighter. Good luck and safe riding. God Speed.

Pretty sure any advice given to him so far from his friends outside of this forum, was maybe taking into account the 401 especially, and its infamous/dangerous disappearing right lanes. I have often run the 401 when even the slowest right lane was doing 120/130, and if you have just merged on...let's say 401 WB at Weston, where lanes are short and uphill, and if you have to get across 6+ lanes to exit off to the left just half a km up, then those really are times you wish you had a lot more grunt. Factor in headwinds etc and issues become compounded.

As has been mentioned, it is ridiculous to compare small bike capabilities going by only displacement. While I agree that the 535 has enough to do this task, in some spots on the 401, I'd feel a lot more confident doing it on a 500R. The 535 is no slouch, but it is also no ball of fire as 535cc's might suggest. And it was never designed to be. It was designed to be a relaxed ride cruiser for those short in the inseam and who simply prefer a cruiser over other styles. Even the Vulcan (which has the Ninja 500 motor, but tuned for torque at much lower revs at the cost of hp on the upper limits, compared to the Ninja) pulls harder than the 535 once out on the highway.

So that my comments can be interpretted the best, I am one of the ones who will not defend a CBR125 on the 401. Perhaps at 4 am in the morning it is safe enough, but that little bike is out of its element in many areas/certains times of the 401 and anyone who has a 125 and feels they are going to change my mind, I can assure you, there have been times you were in in the way (even if at a legal speed) and a sitting duck.

As for the OP, I applaud getting other opinions on an open forum. Given his experience, defensive driving practices, I'd say he should be fine for all but the worst case scenarios he might encounter on the 401, and in those circumstances, there are always other options/exits that, while they might be out of your way a little, can still get you where you want to go using another merge lane elsewhere with a bit more room for more relaxed accelerating.
 
Your bike should be fine on the highway it's just depends on you the rider if you're ok with riding it on the highway. Take it out to a country road and see what the top speed is and how it accelerates before you try the 400 series.

If I can ride a 250cc scooter across Canada facing numerous trucks and crazy winds and high altitudes through the Rocky mountains than your bike should be more than capable of tackling the 400 serious. One of my strategy when I ride a 110 km/h highway limit is to find a slow car and follow it lol.
 
I ride a 2011 Kawasaki Ninja 250. I recently surpassed the 10,000km mark and 90% of that distance is from commuting on the 400 series freeways.
 
Wow. I'm really grateful for the opinions you've shared. It really helps open up my perspective.

The other riders I've spoken to are all generally riders of larger bikes. Some are retired police officers. Most have ridden since they were in their teens. Some are current riders. Others are sharing their memories of riding the 400 series highways since they haven't ridden in several years.

I know they all mean well, but as many of you have alluded to, I don't think many of those riders have recent experiences riding on the 400 series highways in the GTA. Down here in Niagara the QEW's pretty tame and I think it's possible that most of the people I've spoken to have a range of around Hamilton before they head back home. Even heading to Port Dover doesn't require highways from here.

Thank you all for your advice. If you see a burgundy 1987 Yamaha Virago on one of the 400 series highways being ridden by a guy with a sword case and armour bag strapped to it, you'll know it's me, just learning the ropes of riding on these "dangerous" roads. ;)
 
Any performance options out there for that bike? A loud pipe and a jet kit might wake it up a bit, and would definitely improve your road presence. Plenty of people upgrade their horns as well, there are some cool options out there!
 
I currently ride a 69 CB350 on a regular basis, sometimes for hours on end. No problem, just keep that left hand mirror in mind and all is good. The surprise of a semi next to you is far worse than the wind. It can easy be dealt with when anticipated. Be patient, I simply can't accelerate fast enough to jump from 110 to 120, so the urge to pass gets quashed a lot more regularly. Slap on a smile and you can go anywhere. Plus, you really get a good listen to the sound of all the others riders bikes as they blow by (wear earplugs).
 
I rode my bike for the first time on the highways last weekend.

My Honda is 7 years older than your Virago, and 50 CC's less too. I had no problem getting up to speed, and had plenty of power to spare - the bike did not seem to be struggling to keep up (just my nerves).

I drive very defensively, and spent most of my time following slow cars in the right lane. Making eye contact made a huge difference, with big obvious shoulder checks and early signalling. On my nearly 2 hour trip I encountered a number of drivers who clearly saw me, and gave me plenty of room.
 
CBR 125 '07 ftw.
Many people say that bike is dangerous on the highways because it is too small and can't reach highway speeds.. Last time I checked the speed limit was 100 and for me this bike is able to hold an even 120km/h given the conditions of no wind, not tucked and on a flat road. If you're able to keep up with most of the traffic and staying out of blind spots the best that you can, why not? Just stay out of the passing lane if there are cars behind you.
 
Your bike can accelerate faster than 70% of the cars on the road, back when the speed limit was 70 mph, a 535 CC bike was huge, I had an RD350 that I would take anywhere, anytime, remember the speed limit is 100 kph, and dont bother rejetting and getting a louder pipe, you will only annoy the guy behind you and make yourself deaf.

Just go out, have fun and play safe.
 
+1 to all of the above. Spend your money on decent tires, brakes and upgraded suspension (if possible). Dollars to doughnuts any dangerous situation will require all three. Various sources suggest the Virago 535 has a slightly more powerful engine than a gs500, which is definitely capable of handling any highway in NA.
 
Anything but a modern liter bike is unsafe on the highways!
IMO you should get a ZX14 if you want to safely navigate the 400 series highways.
 
Give me an effing break... Too under powered??? Can someone please give me one scenario where you would have to ACCELERATE out of a situation? I can't honestly think of one.

Just yesterday I was riding northbound on the Allen. As I started to pass a car on my right the driver decided to merge into my lane. Rather than hitting the brakes hard and risking a rear end from the vehicle behind me, I accelerated forward which put me out of harms way, potentially put the driver behind me out of harms way and made myself visible to the driver on my right who clearly wasn't paying attention. Having excess power on-tap may not be absolutely necessary but definitely good to have.

OP, I looked up the specs on the Virago 535 and it's got 45 bhp / 33 ft-lbs. I don't have much experience with bikes in this class but I figure if 250s are capable of hwy than yours should be too.
 
Which usually means just being in the correct gear instead of lugging your way by.

My Burgman weighs more and just a tad more HP but because it's ALWAYS in the right gear can can easily accelerate out at any speed up to about 140 - after that it takes a while.
I have NO issues in traffic on major highways. He's got lots if he's willing to use it.

BTW I also agree that accelerating out - especially on on ramps is important get to 10% above traffic speed on the ramp then ease in.
But that's willingness to wind the bike up and that's something newer riders seem skittish about.
 
Which usually means just being in the correct gear instead of lugging your way by.

My Burgman weighs more and just a tad more HP but because it's ALWAYS in the right gear can can easily accelerate out at any speed up to about 140 - after that it takes a while.
I have NO issues in traffic on major highways. He's got lots if he's willing to use it.

BTW I also agree that accelerating out - especially on on ramps is important get to 10% above traffic speed on the ramp then ease in.
But that's willingness to wind the bike up and that's something newer riders seem skittish about.

This brings up a question as to what is the "right" gear? Most certainly a newbie question...but there it is. The Virago 535 has five gears. The manual says it should be in fifth from 40 km/hr and up. If I need to accelerate quickly to highway speeds, I'm assuming I'll need to downshift to 4th and "wind the bike up" to a higher speed before putting it into fifth. Is that a correct assumption?

I've read that the 535's v-twin engine is designed to work at higher rpm for long stretches of time so putting it at higher rpm for getting up to speed doesn't seem to be out of line. In my limited riding in the 80 km/hr range on the country roads in the area I have simply been going through the gears and it gets up to 80 km/hr in decent time in my opinion. Obviously when there's a limited-space on ramp I need to get moving much faster. Feedback for this newbie question certainly welcomed!
 
The manual says it should be in fifth from 40 km/hr and up. If I need to accelerate quickly to highway speeds, I'm assuming I'll need to downshift to 4th and "wind the bike up" to a higher speed before putting it into fifth. Is that a correct assumption?


I will guess that you would not be selecting 5th gear until somewhere typically in the range of 80 - 120 kph. Especially if you are merging onto a hwy. 40kph probably 2 or 3rd gear at best, unless you are racing ants on the road, then go for 5th right away, lol.

The mauals are always very conservative, overly so.

Good luck. Much of this will become apparent to you I suggest once you give it a few tries. It will not blow up if you rev it. Cruising at or very near its top speed for hours is not recommended.
 
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