It really is. I live in Orangeville, close to downtown so I can walk and bicycle to most places, but I would hate to rely on a vehicle 100% anytime I leave the house. I couldn't live in a rural or exurb location, but that's just me.
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Moving out of Province? Pro's & Con's
- Thread starter Jampy00
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If you're going to move provinces, before you leave Ontario ask your insurance company for an "experience letter". You'll get a printout of your AutoPlus file to show your new insurer.
Have you ever been west of the Soo and east of Calgary in the winter?
That's why.
On the prairies you can watch your dog running away... for three days.
Great point, as it stands it looks like ensuring your license(s) and insurance are in order is a MUST.
Both kids are in Alberta, I think there was as waiting period to get registered with Alberta Health ( thier OHIP) , 90 days if I recall, I think other provinces may be similar. Insurance in AB was easy ( and cost less...), transfering plates and drivers licenses was easy.
Niether reported any issues with utilities getting setup , or cable/internet. They both had Scotia bank here , so just switched branches to an AB local.
Pretty easy actually,
Niether reported any issues with utilities getting setup , or cable/internet. They both had Scotia bank here , so just switched branches to an AB local.
Pretty easy actually,
I can't speak for him but for myself.... having spent a lot of time in that zone...
Prairies:
Wind, it never seems to stop and I am not a fan of wind.
Riding, if you think Ontario is straight and boring!
Cold in winter, and wind again... the damn wind.
Crime in the cities is very high (leads Canada most years)
Northern Ontario:
Cold and bugs.
Crime in Thunder Bay, competes with Winnipeg, Regina and Saskatoon....
To be fair there are some bright spots, but not many IMO. Parts of the prairies get the most number of hours of sunlight per year vs most of Canada. Outdoors in Northern Ontario can be amazing at times. All of it is much cheaper housing than here. My negatives may be positives for others that like crime, cold, bugs and wind....
Not surprising, While I still am at the "I have no idea what I want to do"
This has me concerned about what the GTA will be like in the near future.
Canada's Immigration Levels Plan 2024-2026
Here is everything you need to know about the Government of Canada's Immigration Levels Plan.
Adding 500K people per year with no controls over where they live is a solid driver of GTA dwelling prices. Lets be honest, not too many are going to pick north bay or moosejaw as a place to settle.Not surprising, While I still am at the "I have no idea what I want to do"
This has me concerned about what the GTA will be like in the near future.
And before anyone complains I am referring only to the number of people..Canada's Immigration Levels Plan 2024-2026
Here is everything you need to know about the Government of Canada's Immigration Levels Plan.www.canadavisa.com
Jampy
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JC100 ....any thoughts about retiring to Australia? 3-4 months of rain and heat in the tropics here and the rest wonderful.
Buy a small villa for $300k. Maybe some part time work at JCU JCU Australia
365 days riding.
Record retirements foretell ongoing Canadian labour shortage
https://www.thestar.com › business › 2022/09/13 › a-re...and accelerating and already there is a shortage of staff ( same here in Australia ) so 500,000 to replace 307,000 already quitting plus many more planning to is not a big gain.
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JC100 ....any thoughts about retiring to Australia? 3-4 months of rain and heat in the tropics here and the rest wonderful.
Buy a small villa for $300k. Maybe some part time work at JCU JCU Australia
365 days riding.
Ordinarily it might be something I’d consider but I have a unicorn job. One I’m pretty unlikely to get with the same kinds of good conditions/pay etc with a move. What the job does enable me to do is travel several times a year so I’ll do that until it kills me since I apparently am financially challenged when it comes to planning for retirement etc.
Jampy…best advice…move somewhere else in Ontario if the GTA doesn’t fit. I have to say my 10 minute commute is exhausting.
Wifes commute is 10 mins, mine is 10 if I go to the office , 32 seconds most days , bedroom to coffee maker. Life can be ok in t he GTA, but I hear Jampy quite clear, I plan trips across Oakville and Burlington to certain times of the day, QEW can stop randomly at any time.
Three friends have all moved to BC in the last yr. Two into downtown Van and one into Rossland. Neonatal nurse, recruiter, and a hospital social worker/ wilderness tour guide. They all moved for jobs they had lined up. Some paper work on each end but pretty simple, they cannot imagine why it took so long for them to get out of the GTA ( yeah, they are all under 30)
Three friends have all moved to BC in the last yr. Two into downtown Van and one into Rossland. Neonatal nurse, recruiter, and a hospital social worker/ wilderness tour guide. They all moved for jobs they had lined up. Some paper work on each end but pretty simple, they cannot imagine why it took so long for them to get out of the GTA ( yeah, they are all under 30)
AllistonGT
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Do you know off hand what the requirements are to be able to move to Australia permanently? I didn't think it would be that easy.
Much is dependent on your situation. It's easier with a sponsor or relative and it is expensive to apply. But there is a strong back and forth between Canada and Aus. I have clients and friends with foot in both.
A lot depends on age and skills so cannot give you a broad answer. Contact Josh directly. There is a separate visa for retirement vs working.
Joshua Ferreira
Migration Agent
MARN: 1276739
A lot depends on age and skills so cannot give you a broad answer. Contact Josh directly. There is a separate visa for retirement vs working.
Joshua Ferreira
Migration Agent
MARN: 1276739
Mad Mike
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I like Northern eastern Ontario. It has lots of bug's and its colder than the prairies for 12 weeks a year - but the winter is shorter, outdoors are amazing in all seasons, cost of housing is low, and your only a 7hr drive to real civilization.
West of the Soo is mostly zero until you hit Canmore. I only fly over that ****.
Before you leave Ontario, make sure you get your full driver's abstract from MTO. The one that shows when you first got your driver's license (when you were 16 or 17 years old). Does not have to be certified.
Most provinces you move to will treat you like a new driver and give you crap insurance rates unless you can prove you've held your license for xx years. If you come prepared with your full MTO abstract, you can get your entire Ontario driving history counted for a better insurance rate.
Technically, you will have something like 60-90 days to get your vehicle and driver's license transferred over to the new province's registry, but in reality, there's no enforcement on this. Your Ontario insurance company will probably be on you sooner than the government, as they will not pay out any claims after xx days if you are no longer residing in Ontario but your pink slips says you are. You will most likely need to safety certify your vehicle again to register it in your new home province. Motorcycles may be exempt from this safety cert requirement.
The minute you get your new plates, call MTO and have them take your old ownership information out of their system. This will ensure you don't get erroneously billed for any parking or toll charges, because those will be a bear to dispute if you're living in another province.
Depending on the province, health benefits only kick in about 90-180 days after you've moved. But OHIP will still cover you in the meantime. As soon as you're eligible, get your new health card. Make sure you can prove residency by having a rental agreement, or utilities bill dated to the earliest date you can, to prove eligibility.
As for cell service, most people these days just end up keeping their old number. I have a Squamish number from when we first moved to BC, even though I'm in the interior now. All my neighbours still have their old 416, 905 and 403 numbers. Free Canada-wide calling makes the exchange a moot point these days. The only reason why you'd switch to another provider is if they don't have adequate coverage where you live or work.
For snail mail, contact Canada Post and have them forward all your old mail to your new address. They will do this across provinces for either 4 or 12 months. More cost-effective to do it for a year, and then whatever mail comes in that you've forgotten to update, you have a full annual billing cycle to fix that.
If you don't already have housing lined up and don't know which neighbourhood to settle in, use AirBnb and get a 1-2 week rental to try out different neighbourhoods around the city you want to move to. It's very difficult getting an idea of what a neighbourhood will be like just by flying in and visiting for a couple of days: things like traffic patterns/congestion during different times of day and week, noise, proximity/quality of services, demographic of the people who live in the area. While you are trying different places out, you can keep most of your belongings in storage until you settle on a permanent place to move to.
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I understand the reasons, but people don't die upon retirement, so the population still grows while the infrastructure continues to struggle to support them.
Fantastic reply, many thanks.
I don't know the real estate situation in Aus but New Zealand is worse than Canada due to the spread between income and house prices.Much is dependent on your situation. It's easier with a sponsor or relative and it is expensive to apply. But there is a strong back and forth between Canada and Aus. I have clients and friends with foot in both.
A lot depends on age and skills so cannot give you a broad answer. Contact Josh directly. There is a separate visa for retirement vs working.
Joshua Ferreira
Migration Agent
MARN: 1276739
Moving to a new location can result in cultural shock. There are rednecks everywhere. There are cliques everywhere. Some are harder to crash into or accept than others. Being Canada we are polite and often the sore spots are politely hidden until, one day, you realize you're an outsider.
IMO internal migration is a missing element of Canadian society these days. At one time people moved where the work was when they were young or when they needed to. My parents and their parents pretty much lived at one time or another across the entire country. Now some of that was Great Depression driven but it was not just then/that.
To me it seems these days more people dig in and expect society and opportunities to come to them? Housing is too expensive, well it is not in other areas. There are no jobs here, well other areas have plenty.... etc.
Other than that, some other advice:
Move for a reason (opportunity) not just grass looks greener or unhappiness as both may not change.
If you are hardcore city person or a hardcore rural person, move like for like will work best.
If you have a support structure of family and friends keep in mind that will be gone or far away, for example emergency childcare or whatever.
To me it seems these days more people dig in and expect society and opportunities to come to them? Housing is too expensive, well it is not in other areas. There are no jobs here, well other areas have plenty.... etc.
Other than that, some other advice:
Move for a reason (opportunity) not just grass looks greener or unhappiness as both may not change.
If you are hardcore city person or a hardcore rural person, move like for like will work best.
If you have a support structure of family and friends keep in mind that will be gone or far away, for example emergency childcare or whatever.
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