Moving on up to an SS

Litre bike!!

Litre bikes have better street manners than any 600ss. And once you get used to them, can be ridden very effectively on the track. 05-06 Suzuki GSX-R 1000 is arguably the best all around sport bike of the last 15 years! Trust me, I have one, and its as good as they say. Everytime I ride it i'm amazed by how docile and predictable it is, and how effortlessly it turns. Twist the throttle a little more, and be blown away by it's incredible thrust and it's ability to reach near warp speed. Not saying 600s arent fun, and effective, but a 600 will never do all this for you.

Then theres this: Typically 600's are bought by new riders, young riders who cant afford insurance on a bigger bike, "kids"who beat them senseless then squirrel them out with rim stripes and LED signals that blink too fast. 1000's are bought by guys in their 30's and 40's, well maintained, low miles, and are rarely beaten hard. Why? because it isn't necessary to beat a 1000 to make it go fast. Just last year, I broke the electric shift on the CRPL-R (K6 GSX-R 1k) during a SOAR endurance. The bike was stuck in 4th. I rode the entire GBM technical layout in 4th gear. The funny part was that my laptimes were within a few seconds of when I had all 6 gears. The low end tourque of the big bore bike is what makes them so easy to ride. I guess this is why the Hayabusa is considered one of the best sport-touring bikes around.

I get riders in my shop all the time asking what 600 to buy, to which my response is always the same: "none of them". Those who listen me come back in all the time to thank me, maybe buy a pipe or some tires. Those who insist on buying the 600's are usually back telling how they wish they'd listened to me. Then they spend their hard earned money in my shop having the speaker wire and marrettes removed from the wiring harness, or having the exhaust welded because someone tried to take out the catalytic converter with a hacksaw, tinsnips. and JB weld.

People say "I don't need a 1000, 600 is fast enough for me" This is nonsense. You've effectively ridden an SV for 1 or more seasons? this is plenty for you to skip the 600 level all together. Provided you treat it with respect, a 1000 is not going to bite you

Just my 2c Anyone agree with me?
 
The kawasaki was always a blast to ride, especially the 636. Has that little bit of power above everything else, however ive always hated the looks.

They share their good looks and fit and finish with that other green company....
 

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Litre bike!!

Litre bikes have better street manners than any 600ss. And once you get used to them, can be ridden very effectively on the track. 05-06 Suzuki GSX-R 1000 is arguably the best all around sport bike of the last 15 years! Trust me, I have one, and its as good as they say. Everytime I ride it i'm amazed by how docile and predictable it is, and how effortlessly it turns. Twist the throttle a little more, and be blown away by it's incredible thrust and it's ability to reach near warp speed. Not saying 600s arent fun, and effective, but a 600 will never do all this for you.

Then theres this: Typically 600's are bought by new riders, young riders who cant afford insurance on a bigger bike, "kids"who beat them senseless then squirrel them out with rim stripes and LED signals that blink too fast. 1000's are bought by guys in their 30's and 40's, well maintained, low miles, and are rarely beaten hard. Why? because it isn't necessary to beat a 1000 to make it go fast. Just last year, I broke the electric shift on the CRPL-R (K6 GSX-R 1k) during a SOAR endurance. The bike was stuck in 4th. I rode the entire GBM technical layout in 4th gear. The funny part was that my laptimes were within a few seconds of when I had all 6 gears. The low end tourque of the big bore bike is what makes them so easy to ride. I guess this is why the Hayabusa is considered one of the best sport-touring bikes around.

I get riders in my shop all the time asking what 600 to buy, to which my response is always the same: "none of them". Those who listen me come back in all the time to thank me, maybe buy a pipe or some tires. Those who insist on buying the 600's are usually back telling how they wish they'd listened to me. Then they spend their hard earned money in my shop having the speaker wire and marrettes removed from the wiring harness, or having the exhaust welded because someone tried to take out the catalytic converter with a hacksaw, tinsnips. and JB weld.

People say "I don't need a 1000, 600 is fast enough for me" This is nonsense. You've effectively ridden an SV for 1 or more seasons? this is plenty for you to skip the 600 level all together. Provided you treat it with respect, a 1000 is not going to bite you

Just my 2c Anyone agree with me?

I'll bite and I'll agree with the exception of everyone I know with a 1000 is sub 30 in age and bought them cause they are a litre bike and bigger then yours. Half them are modded worse in my opinion then most 600's with longer swing arms, tire conversions and any other gay thing you can throw at them.

I've ridden many SS bikes in the past 15 years and for a DD SS I feel the best bet is a GSXR-750 more torque then the 600 same size and not the insurance of a liter bike. This all coming from someone who currently rides an 07 CBR 600 RR.
 
No love for Daytona 675?
Plenty of low-mid torque, intoxicating sound?
Just throwing it out there...:)
 
No love for Daytona 675?
Plenty of low-mid torque, intoxicating sound?
Just throwing it out there...:)

I love them, but even used are WAY outta my price range.
 
I'll bite and I'll agree with the exception of everyone I know with a 1000 is sub 30 in age and bought them cause they are a litre bike and bigger then yours. Half them are modded worse in my opinion then most 600's with longer swing arms, tire conversions and any other gay thing you can throw at them.

I've ridden many SS bikes in the past 15 years and for a DD SS I feel the best bet is a GSXR-750 more torque then the 600 same size and not the insurance of a liter bike. This all coming from someone who currently rides an 07 CBR 600 RR.

ya but you know you want a 1000cc! haha
 
*MY* price range. 5k max. Might be picking something up this weekend :D

And 7500 is WAY too much for that R6

Didn't see the 5k part, my bad...
You found a 2009 R6 for $5k? hmm...
Anyway, good luck with your purchase and let us know what did u get :)
 
Didn't see the 5k part, my bad...
You found a 2009 R6 for $5k? hmm...
Anyway, good luck with your purchase and let us know what did u get :)

Not an 09, no. I'm deciding between the 06 CBR and the 05 R6
 
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No love for Daytona 675?
Plenty of low-mid torque, intoxicating sound?
Just throwing it out there...:)

Nice bikes, but they dont crash well. Frames and wheels are made out of paper mache. sliders make things worse. Fast and effective, but they make Suzukis look durable...
 
Nice bikes, but they dont crash well. Frames and wheels are made out of paper mache. sliders make things worse. Fast and effective, but they make Suzukis look durable...

Lol, I just realized who this account is. Not even a full season ago you were helping me out with a 250 :p If I trusted myself on a 1kRR I would be all over one...not just yet
 
The SV redlines around 11,500 though, so to compare power delivered at a specific rpm for two completely different types of motors is sort of irrelevant.

The SV is on a steady decline in power starting at 8500 rpm so there's no need to rev any higher unless you want to slow down. While the R6 doesn't make full power until 14,000rpm. So yeah it kinda is relevant given my original statement.
 
Litre bike!!

Litre bikes have better street manners than any 600ss. Just my 2c Anyone agree with me?

I agree 100%. My 1000 makes me smile every time I ride it while my 600 just feels broken compared to it on the street.
 
Sooo... what you're saying is... GO HONDA! Or is GO SUZUKI? :lmao:
No, I think he gave a pretty accurate description of his experiences which happen to be bang on.

I am a Kawi guy all my life but unfortunately I had to go with what I felt it was the best choice at the moment due to power ratio to weight and comfort of riding. the Gsxr 750

Only reason I don't own a Honda is because of how over engineered they are, pain in the *** to work on then but a great bike.

Like he said, don't listen to anyone, go out there and try all the bikes, read about them and gather as much info as you can in order to make your decision
 
everyone has their brand, as Paul1000RR said, you really can't go wrong with any of them, you need to try a few out to figure out which one you like. I find it best to get to know regulars at the bike nights, or get a riding group together, show your not an idiot rider, and try out a few rides, if others are willing to switch. I've tried many bikes this way and find its the best way to get a gauge on character for a bike. Also much easier than trying to run around to dealers to try new models which are quite different than past years.

IMO, daytona 675 for a track 600, although the new 636 looks tempting. But both of these are at a beyond the price point your looking. So my advice, make friends with bike night regulars, and swap rides ( of course with the you break it you fix it policy )

w.r.t 1000 vs 600 discussion, I too find the 1k makes me smile everytime I ride it. If it were my choice, a 750, a bit of the best of both worlds if your going to the track.
 
I'd rather have a 750 on the track (mostly because of my weight) instead of my 600 but I'm stuck with my 600 for now. Could I be a bit faster with the 675 over my 600? Maybe. But if I crash and need some spares from fellow riders I know there'll be plenty of other GSXR's at the track compared to 675's.
 
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