City of Toronto HOV lanes already permit motorcycles so obviously we're talking about the 400 series highways.
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Motorcycles on HOV lanes
- Thread starter onispeed
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City of Toronto HOV lanes already permit motorcycles so obviously we're talking about the 400 series highways.
Fair enough. I don't ride or drive near HOV lanes in the city so I have no idea why or how it'd be safer. The one rule still applies, where you have to watch for traffic from both sides as opposed to just having to worry about someone merging into you from the right.
Im definitely on high alert if Im whizzing by stopped cars on the street though, that's for sure.
Im definitely on high alert if Im whizzing by stopped cars on the street though, that's for sure.
Yes, which is what my post said.
The environmental angle is actually a pretty poor one, for most motorcycles, unless you include materials used in manufacture.
The Road Warrior
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One ****** thing about HOV lanes is you get a few idiots using them, once in a while who actually go slower than traffic in regular lanes, then you are stuck behind them and can't pass till the lane opens.
I commute daily in the nicer months from the top of Don mills to the DVP.
It's a daily occurence for a cager, frustrated with being stuck in the middle lane for a prolonged period to move into the faster moving HOV lane without a proper shoulder/mirror check.
You really need your spider senses when riding HOV lanes, that why i find it so odd when other riders say it's safer.
It's a daily occurence for a cager, frustrated with being stuck in the middle lane for a prolonged period to move into the faster moving HOV lane without a proper shoulder/mirror check.
You really need your spider senses when riding HOV lanes, that why i find it so odd when other riders say it's safer.
The Road Warrior
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What you said is a daily occurence on ALL roads, so it makes no difference what lane you are in and if it's HOV or not. You ride a bike and you need your spidey senses all the time, everywhere.
mindactivated
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That should read: "City of Toronto allows motorcycles on some HOV lanes."
e.g.
- Bay St does NOT allow motorcycles.
- Don Mills allows motorcycles.
I thought Bay St allowed motorcycles in the HOV lanes but read into it and didn't see anything on that particular street.
OpenGambit
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I realize that there was a typo in my first post. I meant to say that I am NOT sure if enviromental is the best argument for bikes.
I am just saying that the article focuses on gas consumption but emissions obviously tells a different story. Either way I think we are agreeing here.
OpenGambit
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Which would clearly undermine the concept that HOV lanes are safer... he is saying that is false.
I caught the typo, because of your phrasing, and was confirming for you that it's a bad angle. Emissions are definitely worse for bikes, based on the more lax controls. Definitely in agreement.
OpenGambit
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The Road Warrior
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If they are yellow you can cross em. If they are white and solid, you are stuck till they are solid no more
If they are yellow you can cross em. If they are white and solid, you are stuck till they are solid no more
It has been stated, on numerous occasions, that lines alone are not a regulatory device. Colour is immaterial. You'll find nothing about them in the HTA.
OpenGambit
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If they are yellow you can cross em. If they are white and solid, you are stuck till they are solid no more
I know what the lines mean I am saying that they are not legal requirements. ( THIS IS ONTARIO SPECIFIC BEFORE SOMEONE DOES THIS IN BC). I don't know if you remember but there was a thread about passing over double lines in HTA and that was the entire point of it.
I am not recommending it but I just saying that if its just the lines ( no signs ), then its not against the law.
The Road Warrior
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I'll have to check my HTA book, but I am pretty sure it mentions the yellow versus white somewhere. As far as I know yellow are the "suggested" and white are law.
But I could be wrong....will check the HTA later, too lazy now.
OpenGambit
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I'll have to check my HTA book, but I am pretty sure it mentions the yellow versus white somewhere. As far as I know yellow are the "suggested" and white are law.
But I could be wrong....will check the HTA later, too lazy now.
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