boyoboy
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ty sometimes Im too impatient. best video for 2017 so far.
motorcycle vs car road rage
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ty sometimes Im too impatient. best video for 2017 so far.
For all you know before the video started, the driver was in the L lane and moved right when the biker pulled up on him. But you choose to believe the driver was in the other lane and squeezed the biker out from the right. Turns out, your version is wrong.
But hey, the media's biased wah wah wah. Please.
When the video starts the car is in the lane, but riding the line. Bike had to pull up to kick the door, or the car slowed down, but the brake lights didn't go on on the car. Car veered left a split second after the kick. While it's very possible that the cager was trying to scare the biker, he's would most likely get away with it in this case.
Considering the camera car guy reported that the biker had already kicked the car a few times before, if he testified in a court case I don't think the driver would get away with it.
A place where something similar to this could happen in the G.T.A. would be the Q.E.W.
People get going exactly the speed limit in the diamond lanes.
Others accelerate pull the to right and pass them in the short space where you can enter/exit the lanes.
If someone happens to want off after you've accelerated and begun to pull out for the pass. Bam!
So keep your wit's about and your head cool. Ride safe.
People get going exactly the speed limit in the diamond lanes.
Others accelerate pull the to right and pass them in the short space where you can enter/exit the lanes.
If someone happens to want off after you've accelerated and begun to pull out for the pass. Bam!
So keep your wit's about and your head cool. Ride safe.
Ethereal
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The video starts with the car riding the double line moving into a lane they are not to be in, crossing a line they are not to cross.
See this video link as you may be looking a the shortened one the media is pushing.
https://youtu.be/DVuQaPpHXzU
So the driver moved out of the lane hitting the guy and if it was between lanes he was hit from his left first(biker). Then what he is so scared he illegally crosses the line again for more????? Seems more like he saw the biker about to pass him and cut him off on the right, then went back for more on the left and lost control. Please note the video witness did not say he was kicking the car before the video
Below quote from the video witness:
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/...ick-road-rage/
Chris Taber, the driver who shot the video, says moments before he grabbed his phone, the motorcyclist had also passed him between lanes.
Then, when the Nissan’s driver tried to get out of the carpool lane, he bumped the motorcycle. Traber doesn’t know if it was an accident or on purpose. That’s when the two men started yelling and the biker started kicking the Nissan driver’s door.
“I’m sure the guy on the motorcycle was scared and totally startled because he almost went down and I’m sure his adrenaline kicked in,” Traber said.
Meanwhile, the father of the Nissan driver told KCAL 9 off-camera that his son became scared when he said the biker flashed that looked like a knife at him.
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The video starts with the car riding the double line moving into a lane they are not to be in, crossing a line they are not to cross.
See this video link as you may be looking a the shortened one the media is pushing.
https://youtu.be/DVuQaPpHXzU
So the driver moved out of the lane hitting the guy and if it was between lanes he was hit from his left first(biker). Then what he is so scared he illegally crosses the line again for more????? Seems more like he saw the biker about to pass him and cut him off on the right, then went back for more on the left and lost control. Please note the video witness did not say he was kicking the car before the video
Below quote from the video witness:
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/...ick-road-rage/
Chris Taber, the driver who shot the video, says moments before he grabbed his phone, the motorcyclist had also passed him between lanes.
Then, when the Nissan’s driver tried to get out of the carpool lane, he bumped the motorcycle. Traber doesn’t know if it was an accident or on purpose. That’s when the two men started yelling and the biker started kicking the Nissan driver’s door.
“I’m sure the guy on the motorcycle was scared and totally startled because he almost went down and I’m sure his adrenaline kicked in,” Traber said.
Meanwhile, the father of the Nissan driver told KCAL 9 off-camera that his son became scared when he said the biker flashed that looked like a knife at him.
No, I have the same video. But I believe that the witness said that the car was in the carpool lane trying to exit (see your quote above), and he's clearly partially in them when the video starts.
Anyways, the police would have charged the cager if your scenario was true. Another scenario that fits with the video and the witness is that the cager was exiting at a legitimate spot, as the biker was passing him using the carpool separator as a personal passing lane. They bumped or had a close call at the right rear end of the car. Bike moved right and slowed, car moved left. Then a few seconds later the video starts.
Ethereal
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Point is the car went right hit him. Car went left hit him. Witness said he was not sure if the first one was on purpose. The second one seems to confirm this dude was ready able and willing to take someones life. **** the kicking/ property damage. One was ready to kill.
No, the point is the media reported on the biker's responsibility because that's everything the video showed, not because of bias. You choose to call the driver an attempted killer not because of the video, but because of your bias.
While I share your opinion that the driver deliberately swerved at the biker (nobody here has said they disagree), that is only an opinion. It's not a fact that the media could or should report on. What are demonstrable facts based on the video is that the biker raged, escalated an incident into a crash and then rode off. And that's all they said.
What they said will be always be true and correct no matter what other information is uncovered later. Even if it turns out later based on new information that the driver pulled a gun on the biker, the fact remains the rider raged and then drove off after being implicated in a crash. How on earth is it bias to say so?
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Ethereal
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Forget the kicking as we know if you had been hit on your bike you would not have been in a sound frame of mind. The driver of the car was in and out of a lane they should not have been in. That is a fact that they can report. Because of these actions the car put several people at risk. Then instead of just doing what was right he still kept on the biker. Then his next actions did put several people at risk. I think the kicking of the car was a d bag move. But the car did get that close by choice, biker may have felt threatened. Then the car drive does another D bag move saying the biker pulled a knife. This entire thing is like said above, so beyond stupid we do not yet have a word for it. Kick = Die is what has me on this one.
Point is, if someone hits you, take the plate, slow down, pull over, call the police.
Then it's their hit and run, not yours.
Please, please, please, don't go back for more.
They'll just explain it away to the police or in court as you being the aggressor.
You're not the first person who confuses a strong opinion with fact.
Based on the video alone, we don't know if the driver was in and out of the lane, or crossing from one lane to another. We also don't know if he should or shouldn't have been in that lane. What are the rules for that diamond lane? How many people were in the car? Even after we learn there was just one guy in the car, was he allowed to use that lane? Maybe, maybe not. There is no bloody fact here! If he was swerving in and out of the lane, was it to challenge the biker or to try and avoid him? Again, there are no facts to report. Which might explain why all the professional, trained, experienced, responsible reporters didn't report on those matters.
If you're right and the driver wasn't allowed to be in that lane, okay THEN it's a fact, but what does it change regarding the story, which is the accident? Does it make the biker innocent? Would the biker only be at fault for kicking the car and taking off if there were two or more people in the car? Of course not. The legality or illegality of the car in that lane has no bearing on anything. What if the car had a broken taillight? Or what if it was speeding? What does that have to do with the price of tea in China? If it's not pertinent to the story, of course professional reporters won't include it in their report.
The importance of his right to be in that lane (or not) only serves to prop up your bias. Every time someone says the biker did something wrong, you respond with the driver's faults. As if the two couldn't both be responsible. Every criticism of the biker is met by a rationalisation from you. Is this how you think the media should report things? If you can stop being biased because of some motorcyclist brotherhood or whatever, you will see that the reports are entirely fair and unbiased, despite their criticism of the biker, and lack of criticism of the driver.
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Ethereal
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You can clearly see a single occupant in a HOV lane crossing the lines. That is what started the entire thing. Biker did not do anything wrong until hit. But sure this is just an opinion. You can voice you option he "may have had dotted lines". Fact witness saw car in HOV lane, Fact car crosses double lines and re enters the very lane the witness just saw him exit and hit a bike.
Post up a screen shot where you "clearly see" there's only one occupant.
Then explain how you figure that's what started everything when the witness said it started when the car side-swiped the bike as it tried to exit the HOV lanes.
Also, show us how you figure the biker did nothing wrong until he was hit? He could have been speeding, swerving lanes, maybe his headlight was out?
As for your facts, how do you figure the car exited and re-entered the HOV lanes when there is no evidence of it either on video or in witness statements? I assume you know the difference between crossing lane markers and exiting a lane.
I see a head, so there's one. Now show us there aren't any other people in the car, as you claim is obvious from the video.
Ethereal
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Sure if there was others they would have stated it. Had there been a child the media would have pumped that too. All dialog so far leads us that were not present to believe only one person occupied the car. Had the biker not kicked the car would what the car did have been right? I am staying with the car breaking the HOV rules and crossing the lines twice(Both of which he hit someone) set up this entire situation.
