daught
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I lol at this one. Snuggie extreme? Not dismissing it I just find it funny for some reason.
Motorcycle Stealth Camping
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I lol at this one. Snuggie extreme? Not dismissing it I just find it funny for some reason.
Scob
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Thanks Matthew - I agree with your comment. I am using the term a bit generically - perhaps "non-campground camping to avoid the outrageous fee for just a tent" is more appropriate.
I think your biggest challenge, especially in Ontario, will be to find suitable access points for your bike, assuming you don't have a dual sport.
There's millions of acres of crown land, but the roads to access the land are few and far between.
If you're lucky, you can find some Canadian Shield to ride over, but otherwise there's a lot of swamp and rutted out logging roads
There's millions of acres of crown land, but the roads to access the land are few and far between.
If you're lucky, you can find some Canadian Shield to ride over, but otherwise there's a lot of swamp and rutted out logging roads
Scob
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That is what I am reading about most bivys in general but I like the Eureka model MacDoc linked to at Canadian Tire. I would likely not even use the fly as I mostly want the mesh to keep the bugs at bay. A tarp with a ridgeline over the sleeping area should be OK to keep light rain and dew from ruining your sleep.
http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/escort-hiker-dome-tent-2-person-0765194p.html#.VAX_N7xRGLZ
In reality, I guess it isn't a bivy but should be lightweight and easy to put up and take down. I still have my larger Kelty Ridgeway which is great as well but for $40, I'm willing to give the Eureka a shot just to have something for woods camping.
Scob
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True - assuming I still have a job this winter, I was planning on buying a KLR to make it my camping bike. I will still keep my Road Star for most of my riding but I've been on a KLR a couple of times and I think it will be fine on the secondary roads to get to some gravel roads and the like. I know the KLR is not a hard core dirt bike and is best suited for fields and fire routes which is about all my old body can take now anyhow.
My goal is to find a couple of out-of-the way spots where I can camp out a few weekends a year without having to pay $40 a night and be forced to listen to people partying half the night. I have no problem with partying, and rather enjoyed camping at Mosport a couple of weeks ago, but there are times when I just want a quiet place to get away from everything.
Xhumeka
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Once you have a general idea of approximately where you would like to camp (ie those fire roads you posted) use this site to determine if there is crown land nearby:
http://www.giscoeapp.lrc.gov.on.ca/web/MNR/NHLUPS/CLUPA/Viewer/Viewer.html
Click the "map layers" tab then click "Legend" - that will tell you what colors represent crown land, which represent private land, etc. That site is updated quite frequently, so generally speaking if you find somewhere marked as "crown land" then you are 100 percent legally allowed to camp there for up to 21 days at a time ( https://www.ontario.ca/environment-and-energy/camping-crown-land ) providing you are a Canadian citizen.
http://www.giscoeapp.lrc.gov.on.ca/web/MNR/NHLUPS/CLUPA/Viewer/Viewer.html
Click the "map layers" tab then click "Legend" - that will tell you what colors represent crown land, which represent private land, etc. That site is updated quite frequently, so generally speaking if you find somewhere marked as "crown land" then you are 100 percent legally allowed to camp there for up to 21 days at a time ( https://www.ontario.ca/environment-and-energy/camping-crown-land ) providing you are a Canadian citizen.
I can tell you that MNR map is virtually useless. It isn't at all accurate. I sit on a committee which meets regularly with the MNR about issues and land use of the area north of Bobcaygeon, (commonly referred to as the "5 points system"). The maps shows the area as primarily crown land. This is simply no longer true MOST of the area has been sold off for quite some time. They generally sell large parcels, (100 - 500 acres), to each land owner. I know the sled and atv clubs have updated info as we require a landowner use agreement for EVERY trail that crosses private property. To date there is only ONE trail in the entire area which doesn't cross private property at some point.
Our ATV club has provided OPP, EMS, and fire with a special GPS overlay which shows which areas are private and which are crown. The MNR was amazed that we had compiled this vast amount of data that they don't even have..lol
But to be fair to MNR Dalton and his gang decimated the budget, and have reduced staff.
Our ATV club has provided OPP, EMS, and fire with a special GPS overlay which shows which areas are private and which are crown. The MNR was amazed that we had compiled this vast amount of data that they don't even have..lol
But to be fair to MNR Dalton and his gang decimated the budget, and have reduced staff.
This is not true at all.
This summer me and two buddies travelled to Thompson Manitoba. Of 8 nights only two were spent in hotels. I was riding a Goldwing (the other bikes were a Triumph Sprint and a Suzi Bandit).
In the past we stealth/rough/vagrant camped on our way to James Bay, the Bikers Reunion in New Liskard and another near north trip.
We have so far all been on street bikes and we set up tents and have a campfire every time.
Only once have we been approached by anyone. The morning after our first night this year a guy rode up on an ATV with 5 gallon pails of sweetened popcorn. He was on his way to bait his bear hunting spots.
Like others have said we just look for logging roads, sled trails or other paths leading off the road. Sometimes you have to try a few before finding one that's suitable.
daught
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WHOA is that allowed? Baiting a bear conditions it to human food which makes it very dangerous. wtf.
Scob
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Picked this up last night at Canadian Tire. Haven't had a chance to really look at it yet but may play with it over the weekend.
Obviously you haven't spent much time with hunters..lol Most use some form of bait, many buy the "commercial bait", (go to places like TSC stores and you will see pallets of it), but others just cheap it out. My ex's dad uses crab apples from her trees in the fall to set bait of the deer, and moose seasons. I wouldn't classify "sweetened popcorn" as human food. I don't know people who have it a a part of their everyday diet...lol
Xhumeka
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I agree that I've visited places marked as "general use" (ie crown land camping allowed) on that website but when I arrive I find a bunch of "PRIVATE LAND" or "NO TRESPASSING" signs put up. I know some people do that even if they don't own the land and try to "save it for them" or squat illegally etc, so I'm never too sure if it's just a scare tactic or if indeed it is now legit private land.
That being said, I treat the website as my insurance policy - if it's marked as crown land on that website, a website promoted and owned by the Ontario government that appears to be the only way of finding crown land and I get a trespassing ticket for camping there, i'll take it to court and print out the crown land atlas map section that shows it "general use" and I'm pretty confident the trespassing ticket will get thrown out.
daught
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I just don't think prolonged baiting of a spot is good sport. Plus fed bears are trouble around humans.
Most of them are probably dead before they are conditioned, lol
