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Motorcycle industry is in deep trouble and needs help fast
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Trials
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No not really, it just goes to show that many people haven't taken the time to explore their own country and learn about the things in it.
When there's big tourism dollars to be made you may be surprised to see the level of government support for some leisure activities. Look at snowmobiling in the province of Quebec, for one provincial example, or RV'ing across the entire country for a federal example. RV'ing is a HUGE tourist draw ($$$) and there's a reason provincial and federal governments run all sorts of campgrounds and services to cater to them.
Motorcycling just isn't even remotely as big or financially beneficial as a tourist draw as either of those two quick examples so it doesn't get any love.
mbroyda
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the spotted owl bit may have gone over your head, it sometimes happens when you read to respond rather than to understand.
either way I have no interest in arguing over which birds are indigenous to Algonquin park, carry on
mbroyda
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I get what you're saying but the government cares about $$ not RV'ing or snowmobiling
The gov doesnt support things because they care about me and you, they do it to either get $$ or get votes to stay in power
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Mad Mike
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I tried to startup a small business offering motorcycle tours through Ontario. I got great response from riders, and several foreign tour operators expressed interest in selling tours. The stumbling block was insurance, rental insurance on a fleet of 12 lightweight sport touring / ADV bikes for a rental agency cost $16K/bike!
This is simply a result of Ontario government regulations and restrictions being too cumbersome for any insurer -- every broker I contacted had to go facility rates.
This is simply a result of Ontario government regulations and restrictions being too cumbersome for any insurer -- every broker I contacted had to go facility rates.
Regrettably motorcycle tours exist in dozens of first world countries, just not Ontario, operating costs would be/are, over the moon.
I'm in the forestry business these days, I hate spotted owls..... (sarcasm folks)
The size of the motorcycle show is not a barometer at all of the health of the motorcycle industry. MANY of the booths are gifted to rider groups and associations and clubs, they cube out the space. Even ligitimate vendors can 'get a break' if the show isnt sold out. Scope of the show means people are still interested , not that the industry may be in a tailspin in Canada.
I'm in the forestry business these days, I hate spotted owls..... (sarcasm folks)
The size of the motorcycle show is not a barometer at all of the health of the motorcycle industry. MANY of the booths are gifted to rider groups and associations and clubs, they cube out the space. Even ligitimate vendors can 'get a break' if the show isnt sold out. Scope of the show means people are still interested , not that the industry may be in a tailspin in Canada.
Megamaniac
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Good at that too, we can meet up this summer and I can show you how its done...ridden hundreds of group rides with many a track day riders and racers and yet to be impressed on the streets except for the ASSASSIN he's in another stratisphere.
Will just put this here because this post nails it.....
Btw
Trials
Join Date Nov 2017 Posts 370 This pretty well sums up your sorry arse life joined in nov 2017 and 370 posts lololol ..get a life, go kick your dog, hug your children, hump your wife, live your life instead of posting all day long you sir are addicted to GTAM :toothy1:. You could flame away cause my work is done here.
Trials
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I would very much enjoy that.
Face
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High insurance cost is the same reason many dealers won't stock demo bikes. Personally I think being able to have more demos would get more people into dealerships and would close more sales.
Count me in lol
@Megamaniac
Don't take offense to this as I mean none. You cannot measure skill between riders on public roads. Many regular track junkies or racers are operating at maybe 20% of their actual skill. Most who have spent a significant amount of time on track slow down on public roads because the lack of run off means mistakes will be very costly.
Trials
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Absolutely!油井緋色;2541145 said:
Finding people to ride with and promoting the sport of motorcycling IS the primary reason I participate on motorcycle forums.
... and yes I will not race him or anyone else on public roads, that is highly illegal and my driver license is important to me, I only hope he has his own suitable motorcycle because I really don't want to have to provide one. If it's going to be at an event, make sure your CMA competition membership is paid up, now is the time to do that before the rates increase later in the season.
Face
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I rode with the Assassin once. Never again. His skills are impressive and well above mine, but his judgement, not so much. When I ride fast on the streets, its in more appropriate places and in a way that tries not to attract the wrong kind of attention. If Megamaniac aspires to ride like the Assassin, then I'm not interested in riding with him either. I'm out.
Trials
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If you guys are up for riding a Trials event or using the events as a day ride destination, here is the tentative 2018 CMA ATA schedule as it now stands:
April 14th & 15th ATA 2 Day - Tweed
May 27th & 28th ECTA 2 Day - Lions Head
June 10th SCR Oshweken
Aug 11th & 12th ATA Sparrow Lake
Aug 18th Arden??? <- probably yes seeing as that is my event
Aug 19th ATA – Tweed
Sept 8th & 9th National – Ioco, BC
Sept 15th & 16th ATA - Kearney
Oct 14th ECTA Fall Trial - Lions Head
I will post it up in the events section once the dates are confirmed.
April 14th & 15th ATA 2 Day - Tweed
May 27th & 28th ECTA 2 Day - Lions Head
June 10th SCR Oshweken
Aug 11th & 12th ATA Sparrow Lake
Aug 18th Arden??? <- probably yes seeing as that is my event
Aug 19th ATA – Tweed
Sept 8th & 9th National – Ioco, BC
Sept 15th & 16th ATA - Kearney
Oct 14th ECTA Fall Trial - Lions Head
I will post it up in the events section once the dates are confirmed.
If I go to any trial event, I'll be in the back repeatedly dropping the bike lol
Not enough practice off road...nevermind using tree stumps and jumping!
Chill in the back with me. I'll always try to be sweeper unless somebody else really wants to. I'll even cut in front of someone if I see that they're gonna kill themselves (tight arms, criss-crossed bike, jerky movements, general signs of riding well above one's comfort zone) to slow their pace down.
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J_F
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this is unfortunate, though a short season, we have some fantastic routes to show off our scenery
there probably would be some insurance companies willing to look at a fleet policy
with a realistic risk profile and consummate pricing
all you should really need is public liability
risk to the bikes you could make the renters pay for
accident benefits should be optional for the renter
you could arrange private one-off coverage if they wanted
but they are handcuffed by the Ontario Compulsory Automobile Insurance Act
Thank you. I'll check you guys out for sure. I'm pretty sure you guys know Yoshi cause he's really into trials.
Been meaning to get back into the scene so maybe doing something new will help.
I almost want to ask Racer5 and FAST for how they do it because I'd imagine the insurance on closed-circuit would be costly as well.
I'd rather read any one of his 370 posts in 3 months than any of the drivel you've posted in your last many responses in this thread.
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