Motogp 2013
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Colin Edwards @texastornado55hIf you need reading material head over to Colin Edwards Twitter...... Lots to say on this race.
Also like always Crash.net is highly entertaining
Not happy with the @marcmarquez93 decision �� First time running this scenario & disqualified �� We r not mathematicians...let us race & F off
Wow, nice. My only thing is, lets say he waited an extra lap on purpose, so the pits would be empty and he would have a clean in/change/out, therefor possibly gaining an advantage... I stand by the decision, plus, for the end of the season, OMG THE DRAMA! Can't wait for the next race
Appreciate Colin Edwards sentiments but "we're not mathematicians" isn't really the reason he should go with. These high level racing formulas are all about highly capable and smart people. He sounds like hicksville.
I believe, in part, the governing body just loves any penalty that'll make the title chase more interesting. Bottom line it's money making entertaiment, not really "sport" any more.
I believe, in part, the governing body just loves any penalty that'll make the title chase more interesting. Bottom line it's money making entertaiment, not really "sport" any more.
One of the riders did do a drive through, but it was unclear if that's the penalty he was served (announcers said he was just ordered to drop a single position, most likely for speeding on pit entrance). In the beginning of the Moto? race when they announced the "new" 19 lap race, it didn't list any penalties, just the rules (as far as I can remember). I'll pull it up on the dvr and see if there was anything specific.
Julz
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Both him and the #2 guy sped in the pit coming out so they had to drop a position but he took a pit anyways lol, but the #2 guy was a bit more complicated because dropping a position would've been hard when there's no one behind him at the time lol. I can't seem to find where I read about taking an additional pit stop as a penalty for running an extra lap, might have been smoking something at the time lol
No, that was in the case they came in to change bikes before lap 9, let's say they cam ein in lap 8, now they had 11 laps left and would have to come in again in lap 18, and go out with new tires to do one lap, in the case of marquez, he came in at lap 11
Those are not lazer pointers, they are the reflection of their dash board, its there on every race.
Reading Edwards comments, he goes on to say that there was never a riders meeting were race direction explained the rules and the whole strategy of 10 laps, they were given a piece of paper, that was it.
Marquez error was the teams strategy that got confused with the lack of clarity from RD, remember that once they enter the pit, they are yet to pass the end of the lap line, so when marques entered the pit he was still in lap 10, he completed lap 10 inside the pits, what Race direction wanted was to complete lap 9 inside the pits, you can now see where the confusion came from.
So realistically, if we take Lorenzo's example, he actually came in lap 9 and started lap 10 in the pits, Pedrosa actually came in lap 8 and started lap 9 from the pits..etc
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Julz
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That makes sense thanks for clarifying.
Watching the EuroSport coverage it was pretty clear. There was instruction that they were not to race more than 10 laps on those tires. Marquez rode 10.9 laps before switching bikes. 10.9 is more than 10. It doesn't matter that he swapped bikes before completing his 11th lap.
I don't know exactly what this 'piece of paper' read, but based on EuroSport's commentary it was a pretty stupid mistake to make.
I can see how it caused confusion. Laps are usually counted according to the last completed lap. If a rider goes down after 10.9 laps he will be listed as having completed 10 laps. It's a question of how the laps were counted, not about when he had to come in.
See that is the thing, he didn't race more than 10 complete laps, 10.9 laps is still 10 laps since a lap is not over until the beginning of the next lap, hence why its called a lap and not .9 of a lap.
I agree that Honda should have gotten clarification from race direction before making that decision, but the whole thing was a cluster ****
I agree that Honda should have gotten clarification from race direction before making that decision, but the whole thing was a cluster ****
yea but it makes it a lot closer, if Mark had finished in 2nd, the difference would be 38 points meaning that if Marquez crashed on any of the next 2 races, he would still be ahead.
Still his to lose, but he has to have 2 perfect races, but so does Lorenzo!
I recall that at one point both Lorenzo and Marquez put board read '6 laps' at the same time as it was being counted down and JL was in the lead as they passed the straight.
Also they both would've known Pedrosa came in ahead of them, which IMO would've meant they would have to the next lap.
Also seeing video footage, you can see MM's crew confused by him staying out.
I think MM was too focused on passing JL and being in top spot that he wanted to keep going.
Anyway it's made for an exciting championship and I for one don't mind, I'm tired of seeing champions crowned 2-4 races before the final.
Also they both would've known Pedrosa came in ahead of them, which IMO would've meant they would have to the next lap.
Also seeing video footage, you can see MM's crew confused by him staying out.
I think MM was too focused on passing JL and being in top spot that he wanted to keep going.
Anyway it's made for an exciting championship and I for one don't mind, I'm tired of seeing champions crowned 2-4 races before the final.
