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I really like the V85. I think its a lovely bike.

Was talking to a guy outside a coffee shop that had one. He had it farkeled out with substantial crash protection, bash plates, bark busters, etc. and a set of TKC 80. Said he did about 50% of his riding off road and as stated above its a great all round bike.

His only real complaint was the tire sizes. He said he would prefer a 21/18 but I think that just reflects the amount of off road he was doing.

Nice bike.
 
Lightcycle said:
Yep. My R1200GS was the same. The labour cost to replace the dry clutch was insane...

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+1^^^ LOL. I've done 2 clutches and its a real PITA.

Its not particularly difficult work, its just so labour intensive as basically you need to strip the entire bike from the tank back. Even things like the exhaust and carbs/injectors have to come off.

You could probably change out the clutch on a regular bike in about an hour, just drain the oil, pop off the clutch cover and replace the plates. The worst part is probably scraping off the old gasket.

It was full days work on those boxer motors - 8:00 am to 8:00 pm. That's probably at least $1500 in labour at BMW rates.

I think doing a lot of off road is very hard on the clutch, particularly if you are feathering it a lot as it overheats. It seems to be the off road types that have the shortest clutch life

The other contentious issue in the BMW community is whether or not to regularly lube the clutch splines. Its like asking what oil is best. I personally don't and have not had an issue.
 
Delboy said:
+1^^^ LOL. I've done 2 clutches and its a real PITA.

Its not particularly difficult work, its just so labour intensive as basically you need to strip the entire bike from the tank back. Even things like the exhaust and carbs/injectors have to come off.

You could probably change out the clutch on a regular bike in about an hour, just drain the oil, pop off the clutch cover and replace the plates. The worst part is probably scraping off the old gasket.

It was full days work on those boxer motors - 8:00 am to 8:00 pm. That's probably at least $1500 in labour at BMW rates.

I think doing a lot of off road is very hard on the clutch, particularly if you are feathering it a lot as it overheats. It seems to be the off road types that have the shortest clutch life

The other contentious issue in the BMW community is whether or not to regularly lube the clutch splines. Its like asking what oil is best. I personally don't and have not had an issue.
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2 clutches! ;) holy too many slow races.

If you don't have problems with your clutch splines, it's likely because you are a light weight rider like me and you don't regularly load the bike to capacity with luggage. Spline doesn't need to slide much, I'm only using a tiny amount of suspension travel.
 
Trials said:
2 clutches! ;) holy too many slow races.

If you don't have problems with your clutch splines, it's likely because you are a light weight rider like me and you don't regularly load the bike to capacity with luggage. Spline doesn't need to slide much, I'm only using a tiny amount of suspension travel.
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LOL. I think in my case its because I also use it as a commuter so a combination of daily stop and go combined with some offroad is very hard on it. The average seems to be around 100-120k miles, but I've heard on the forums of riders getting 400k miles + and its still going

I do lube the final drive splines at the motor though. Just not the clutch.
 
Delboy said:
LOL. I think in my case its because I also use it as a commuter so a combination of daily stop and go combined with some offroad is very hard on it. The average seems to be around 100-120k miles, but I've heard on the forums of riders getting 400k miles + and its still going
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Got mine done at 185K kms, so that's pretty spot on.
 
bigpoppa said:
since we talking obscure italian bikes, anyone know of an MV agusta dealer in ontario?
Sturgess claims to be one, but their website shows no inventory
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Lightcycle said:
Obscure? whut?

It's been a while since I checked up on MV Agusta, was surprised to learn that they've pulled out of Canada.

I remember what a big deal it was when Motovan brought the brand up here in 2010. Looks like they pulled out in 2016. That was short-lived...

Looks like if you want an MV, you're going to have to look on the secondary market, or try to import one from the US.
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I'm pretty sure you can still buy one, but you likely have to order it sight unseen. A buddy of mine runs a shop in Vancouver called Moto Meccanica (best in the business for Aprilia, Ducati and MV if you're out west), and they were just posting on Instagram about the Superveloce 800 Serie Oro he has.

Here's their Instagram:

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I'm assuming Sturgess is similar if they are still listed as a dealer...
 
Priller said:
I'm pretty sure you can still buy one, but you likely have to order it sight unseen. A buddy of mine runs a shop in Vancouver called Moto Meccanica (best in the business for Aprilia, Ducati and MV if you're out west), and they were just posting on Instagram about the Superveloce 800 Serie Oro he has.

Here's their Instagram:

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I'm assuming Sturgess is similar if they are still listed as a dealer...
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That seat almost looks like velvet!

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TK4 said:
www.cnet.com

2020 Moto Guzzi V85TT first ride review: (The engine is) the wrong way 'round

Guzzi's first crack at the lucrative adventure bike segment is predictably different but surprisingly excellent.
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Why is it that so many of these reviews are done by sport bike guys with the same banal criticisms? "Low on power," or "too quiet" but "high suspension makes it good in the corners" LOL. To me the ultimate measure of an ADV should be on the dirt trails in the middle of nowhere, the ability to repair the bike when it breaks down there, and the durability of the machine in hostile (hot, cold, wet, rough road) conditions.

Air cooled IMO is always a plus - far less complication and weight. Dry clutch? Well, if they've found a way to beat the physics of friction I'd like to see it, but wet clutches will last the life of the bike when used properly. A transverse twin will offer excellent cooling and low-end dirt-hill climbing torque. It looks like great bike if reliability and Italian ever go together. Then there's parts accessibility to think about, something so easily forgotten in the motorcycle world - 'rare' and 'exotic' won't go very well together with 'the lost road to nowhere'.
 
Roadghost said:
To me the ultimate measure of an ADV should be on the dirt trails in the middle of nowhere, the ability to repair the bike when it breaks down there, and the durability of the machine in hostile (hot, cold, wet, rough road) conditions.
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If that's your criteria, it will be hard to ever beat the KLR. I prefer bikes with soul no matter how practical a tractor is though.
 
Roadghost said:
"Soul" is a subjective term that exists only in the minds of an owner. To me the bikes with the most soul are the ones that are the most faithful.
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I agree. To me a lot comes down to sound and how the power is delivered. A thumper does not satisfy my personal quest for soul on either front. Faithful to me has nothing to do with soul, it is a base requirement that a bike must have for me to consider it. I don't require toyota levels, but I need it to get me home.
 
so that's at least 2 V85TT guys on the forum

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J_F said:
so that's at least 2 V85TT guys on the forum

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whoa whoa whoa, you got one?

congrats!

Did you go to two wheel? or J&R?
 
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J_F said:
so that's at least 2 V85TT guys on the forum

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Wow! Brand new? Congratulations. Finally, someone on this forum as smart as me! Do you still have your Capo?

A few items requiring immediate attention. Blue loctite on the following bolts: the skid plate (there are eight in total), exhaust header heat shields (two per side), the small heat shield just in front of the muffler, and bar ends. Either loctite or replace the nuts on the seat hump with nylon locknuts.

There are two FB owner's groups, as well as a lengthy thread on ADVRider.

Good luck and enjoy the ride.
 
Jayell said:
Wow! Brand new? Congratulations. Finally, someone on this forum as smart as me! Do you still have your Capo?

A few items requiring immediate attention. Blue loctite on the following bolts: the skid plate (there are eight in total), exhaust header heat shields (two per side), the small heat shield just in front of the muffler, and bar ends. Either loctite or replace the nuts on the seat hump with nylon locknuts.

There are two FB owner's groups, as well as a lengthy thread on ADVRider.

Good luck and enjoy the ride.
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yes, new one

been interested in the bike for awhile, the Capo is gone
and the best way to get rid of a wop POS
is trade it in at a wop bike dealer, sorry @Joe Bass :)


appreciate the tips
rode for a few hours today after picking it up
really lovely ride
kind of nice to appreciate going the speed limit with funky class
 
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