2 adults, no kids, both working outside the home...I pay $167/m on equal payment plan...includes water here in Milton...last five months have been under 600 kWh...and we average 14 m3 for water...I'm currently at a negative balance of $449 (I should probably reduce my EPP)...if I click on the 'compare' icon, 65% of my neighbours use more than we do, 20% use the same and 15% use less...
2 adults who are never home - sometimes it feels like we live at work.
LED lights throughout the house.
Gas furnace, dryer, stove and water heater.
House is a well insulated 1,300 sq/ft bungalow.
Winter months are around $70-$75
Summer months are $90-$100
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Last month was 363 kWh which is about normal for us in Winter.
2 adults who are never home - sometimes it feels like we live at work.
LED lights throughout the house.
Gas furnace, dryer, stove and water heater.
House is a well insulated 1,300 sq/ft bungalow.
Winter months are around $70-$75
Summer months are $90-$100
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Last month was 363 kWh which is about normal for us in Winter.
We don’t watch a lot of tv, don’t have computers plugged in all the time, or gaming consoles. And with the house being well insulated, the furnace isn’t on much in the winter so the furnace fan isn’t on much. I think our biggest single hydro drain is the heat lamp and UV lamp on our snake terrarium.
We don’t watch a lot of tv, don’t have computers plugged in all the time, or gaming consoles. And with the house being well insulated, the furnace isn’t on much in the winter so the furnace fan isn’t on much. I think our biggest single hydro drain is the heat lamp and UV lamp on our snake terrarium.
I'd be curious how you insulated you upstairs. I've a bungalo as well and there is no insulation in the walls on the main floor. I've renovated the basement and you can feel the difference.
I'd be curious how you insulated you upstairs. I've a bungalo as well and there is no insulation in the walls on the main floor. I've renovated the basement and you can feel the difference.
I have a bungalow too, I stripped drywall from the outside walls room by room then added insulation and vapor barrier, blew r50 into roof. and foamed in windows. I also painted sll ceilings with vapor barrier paint. Cut heat and ac by about $300/mo.
I have a bungalow too, I stripped drywall from the outside walls room by room then added insulation and vapor barrier, blew r50 into roof. and foamed in windows. I also painted sll ceilings with vapor barrier paint. Cut heat and ac by about $300/mo.
Interesting, thanks for sharing. Was there tar paper in your walls? I dunno if that should be left alone. Also if adding a vapour barrier with the tar paper in place might create a double barrier effect.
Also since I have an older bungalow I have these old style window sils/trims I dunno if they need to be removed, and or if they do can be saved or just better to replace.
Interesting, thanks for sharing. Was there tar paper in your walls? I dunno if that should be left alone. Also if adding a vapour barrier with the tar paper in place might create a double barrier effect.
Also since I have an older bungalow I have these old style window sils/trims I dunno if they need to be removed, and or if they do can be saved or just better to replace.
If trim comes off, I trash it and start again. Most builder trim was crap to begin with, splits on removal and never goes back together as well as the first time. Good opportunity to update trim to something you like better and/or more architecturally interesting.
I'd be curious how you insulated you upstairs. I've a bungalo as well and there is no insulation in the walls on the main floor. I've renovated the basement and you can feel the difference.
House is about 12 years old and all brick which helps as well. There’s about 18” of blown insulation in the attic, I don’t know what’s in the walls but however it was done it works well.
House is about 12 years old and all brick which helps as well. There’s about 18” of blown insulation in the attic, I don’t know what’s in the walls but however it was done it works well.
Ground or air source seems my usage at over 3000 is higher than some similar cases. Lights are all led and and negligible car is around 300kw a month sewage is probably 100kw. The rest is heatpump and pool and hot tub heating.
2 adults retired
Gas furnace, dryer, and water heater.
Two story (1000sq ft/ floor)
Main floor and garage heated with gas
Second floor of house electric base boards
Winter months are around $125$
Summer months are about 70$
Just saw a video on these. Pretty cool solar panel + pool heater combo. They are regular solar panels on the top, but can pump chlorinated water through channels in the back to cool the panels and heat water for a pool. Likely aren't cheap, but if you were going to go solar, these seem like a good option.
My parents had regular solar heating panels for our pool which worked pretty well, and much cheaper than running an actual pool heater.
Just saw a video on these. Pretty cool solar panel + pool heater combo. They are regular solar panels on the top, but can pump chlorinated water through channels in the back to cool the panels and heat water for a pool. Likely aren't cheap, but if you were going to go solar, these seem like a good option.
My parents had regular solar heating panels for our pool which worked pretty well, and much cheaper than running an actual pool heater.
I used to have a solar heater but the heat pump is so cheap to run and heats 24hrs a day that I removed the solar. I have the pool up to temp may 24 and shut it down around Thanksgiving now 2 extra months of use. Heat pump uses 2 kw a hour when running but only runs alot at the start and end of the year. Cost isn't much different than pumping the water to the roof as the pool pump is VFD and only runs at 60w to circulate through. But would need to be running 1200w to push the water through the solar. I do keep a solar blanket on unless the pool is being used.
Just saw a video on these. Pretty cool solar panel + pool heater combo. They are regular solar panels on the top, but can pump chlorinated water through channels in the back to cool the panels and heat water for a pool. Likely aren't cheap, but if you were going to go solar, these seem like a good option.
My parents had regular solar heating panels for our pool which worked pretty well, and much cheaper than running an actual pool heater.
I would not go anywhere near these. Might work but there are 100 ways to screw up the design and be left with a turd.
We're currently using gas heat. On the upside pool temp climbs by ~2 degrees per hour instead of a few degrees per day for heat pump. I normally dont have the heat on unless we are in the pool. Use it more, it gets warmer. Dont use it, it cools off. I get annoyed if we are paying to heat it and nobody uses it. It is coming to the end of its life. Havent decided whether to go gas again or go with Steve's heat pump constant temp approach. Pool has a cover whenever we are not using it.
If I was going to install a hybrid system, you can buy a titanium heat exchanger so when you air condition your house it dumps the heat into your pool. Less energy needed than dumping the house heat outside and then using a few kw more to extract heat from air to heat pool. Due to location of things, no practical way to install it at my house. Also most hvac techs are morons and finding someone to install it well would be painful. Cant do it myself as you need a ticket as you are adding equipment into a refrigeration line.
I would not go anywhere near these. Might work but there are 100 ways to screw up the design and be left with a turd.
We're currently using gas heat. On the upside pool temp climbs by ~2 degrees per hour instead of a few degrees per day for heat pump. I normally dont have the heat on unless we are in the pool. Use it more, it gets warmer. Dont use it, it cools off. I get annoyed if we are paying to heat it and nobody uses it. It is coming to the end of its life. Havent decided whether to go gas again or go with Steve's heat pump constant temp approach. Pool has a cover whenever we are not using it.
If I was going to install a hybrid system, you can buy a titanium heat exchanger so when you air condition your house it dumps the heat into your pool. Less energy needed than dumping the house heat outside and then using a few kw more to extract heat from air to heat pool. Due to location of things, no practical way to install it at my house. Also most hvac techs are morons and finding someone to install it well would be painful. Cant do it myself as you need a ticket as you are adding equipment into a refrigeration line.
I have looked at that approach the biggest issue for me is the pool is warm by the time I want to cool the house the AC and pool heater rarely run at the same time. In my case it is even easier to implement as I would just need a heat exchanger and direct the ground source to use the pool water as the coolant.
I would not go anywhere near these. Might work but there are 100 ways to screw up the design and be left with a turd.
We're currently using gas heat. On the upside pool temp climbs by ~2 degrees per hour instead of a few degrees per day for heat pump. I normally dont have the heat on unless we are in the pool. Use it more, it gets warmer. Dont use it, it cools off. I get annoyed if we are paying to heat it and nobody uses it. It is coming to the end of its life. Havent decided whether to go gas again or go with Steve's heat pump constant temp approach. Pool has a cover whenever we are not using it.
If I was going to install a hybrid system, you can buy a titanium heat exchanger so when you air condition your house it dumps the heat into your pool. Less energy needed than dumping the house heat outside and then using a few kw more to extract heat from air to heat pool. Due to location of things, no practical way to install it at my house. Also most hvac techs are morons and finding someone to install it well would be painful. Cant do it myself as you need a ticket as you are adding equipment into a refrigeration line.
My neighbor did a cool solar setup for his pool -- he laid PEX down under the pool deck pavers. It pumps a crazy amount of heat when the sun is out, the only mechanical part is a 3 way jandy valve. Cost him about $300 for the setup and it keeps his pool at 82f.
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