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FullMotoJacket said:
Replace Nazi uniform with Blackface, do it multiple times, and idiots will not only forgive you, but vote for you to be PM (twice).

Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.
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I'd say the reason that JT won the first time, was people wanted Harper out. The second time...there was literally no viable alternative.

Let's hope third time is a different result.

I agree with you though....idiot got in thanks to us as a country of voters. Hopefully we won't repeat this.
 
BigEvilDoer said:
Choosing the least worst. A proud Canadian tradition.
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How many countries have a better option? Obviously NZ got a rockstar this time but I have no concept as to her competition. Almost every level of gov't in Canada is least worst election. We raise the politicians to ingrain that least worst is sufficient for a cushy career.
 
It's not the politicians fault, it's the voters' fault. We would never elect someone who actually told the truth in a million years. Saying we either need to raise taxes or cut significant services is political suicide (to be fair, offering to cut services for the poor has worked at various times, but never the middle class who predominantly vote). This is particularly true in a country as divided between rural and urban as Canada, where it's extremely difficult to speak to the heart of both a farmer in Alberta and an office worker in Montreal...
 
Priller said:
It's not the politicians fault, it's the voters' fault. We would never elect someone who actually told the truth in a million years. Saying we either need to raise taxes or cut significant services is political suicide (to be fair, offering to cut services for the poor has worked at various times, but never the middle class who predominantly vote). This is particularly true in a country as divided between rural and urban as Canada, where it's extremely difficult to speak to the heart of both a farmer in Alberta and an office worker in Montreal...
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Socialism is a big part of the problem. I believe in socialism but also understand Margaret Thatcher's comment, "At some point you run out of other people's money to spend." We don't need to give the poor more money, we need to give them more education. We need wages that eliminate the need for assisted housing, food banks, welfare etc.

We want cheap fast food, cheap lawn care, cheap groceries. Theoretically if we paid those workers more up front we wouldn't be paying as much in taxes to subsidize their existence.

No one wants to be first to give in the short term for the long term gain. It would shake up the whole system and take multiple decades to see results. Shakey systems scare investors.
 
nobbie48 said:
Yes X 10

Socialism is a big part of the problem. I believe in socialism but also understand Margaret Thatcher's comment, "At some point you run out of other people's money to spend." We don't need to give the poor more money, we need to give them more education. We need wages that eliminate the need for assisted housing, food banks, welfare etc.

We want cheap fast food, cheap lawn care, cheap groceries. Theoretically if we paid those workers more up front we wouldn't be paying as much in taxes to subsidize their existence.

No one wants to be first to give in the short term for the long term gain. It would shake up the whole system and take multiple decades to see results. Shakey systems scare investors.
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I wanna expand on this with regards to both America and Canadian law systems for drug addiction. Most drug addicts are not acting out of free will (aside from the initial mistake, but this isn't too different from a mistake that results in a divorce, or suicide, and etc.)

Yet we send these guys into prison, often a max security prison, and they end up getting raped (not using this term as a joke for once) in the shower. How the **** is this gonna get them off drugs? And to make matters worse, we're paying for this kind of retarded system.

We need more truth and less gaslighting.
 
油井緋色 said:
I wanna expand on this with regards to both America and Canadian law systems for drug addiction. Most drug addicts are not acting out of free will (aside from the initial mistake, but this isn't too different from a mistake that results in a divorce, or suicide, and etc.)

Yet we send these guys into prison, often a max security prison, and they end up getting raped (not using this term as a joke for once) in the shower. How the **** is this gonna get them off drugs? And to make matters worse, we're paying for this kind of retarded system.

We need more truth and less gaslighting.
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I lost touch with a friend a half dozen years ago and if we reconnect I'd like to know how his niece is doing.

She had become a full blown heroin addict. Her father was very financially comfortable but every cure they tried was a revolving door scenario. They were basically waiting for her to die, one way or another.

Then she got pregnant and instantly everything changed. She went clean and when the child came along she was the model mother. The druggie father was allowed to visit under strict rules. I don't know about fetal drug issues.

I would like to believe that every person with a dependency problem has an inner good self that wants to come out but that is delusional. However "The flogging will continue until morale improves" attitude isn't working.

I knew a Christian missionary and he commented that a lot of people with drug problem children send their kids to Christian schools for the discipline. So many that some Christian schools have bigger drug problems that the public system.

My late brother was struggling after the economy turned against him. He went back to college after his business failed to get a piece of wallpaper that would open some doors. Living on a shoestring budget, he commented that if he robbed a bank instead he would get a couple of years free room and board and the government would pay his tuition.

Everyone is different but we all get treated the same.
 
mimico_polak said:
I'd say the reason that JT won the first time, was people wanted Harper out. The second time...there was literally no viable alternative.

Let's hope third time is a different result.

I agree with you though....idiot got in thanks to us as a country of voters. Hopefully we won't repeat this.
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Not sure if this time is looking any different. Haven't had any issues with O'toole yet but we'll see.

The US hasn't fared much better with choices either. Great runners up until its time to vote, see Andrew Yang and Bernie Sanders.

Anyone could have run this election and beat Trump.

giant douche or a turd sandwhich?
 
But this is the problem @killvino the popular guys (Bernie and Andrew) have a huge following with the younger generations, but they never go out to vote. It’s hilarious on Reddit how they’re all gung Ho for these guys but when it comes to vote there’s such a small showing. It’s a shocker that AOC even got in.

O’Toole has already shown he won’t even allow shining stars in his own cabinet that could overshadow him.

unless a wild card comes out before the election it’ll be JT for another 4, with a very possible majority.
 
FullMotoJacket said:
Replace Nazi uniform with Blackface, do it multiple times, and idiots will not only forgive you, but vote for you to be PM (twice).

Sorry, but you can't have it both ways.
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Speaking of Uniforms.... LOL (Sorry, I though this was too good not to share, delete if inappropriate)

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mimico_polak said:
But this is the problem @killvino the popular guys (Bernie and Andrew) have a huge following with the younger generations, but they never go out to vote. It’s hilarious on Reddit how they’re all gung Ho for these guys but when it comes to vote there’s such a small showing. It’s a shocker that AOC even got in.

O’Toole has already shown he won’t even allow shining stars in his own cabinet that could overshadow him.

unless a wild card comes out before the election it’ll be JT for another 4, with a very possible majority.
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what do you mean upvotes dont count?

its also that although it feels like there's a ton of support, its just a loud minority of the younger generation.

nice to see at least that almost every thread ends up as a bash on JT.
 
Ya. I didn’t want it to go this route but felt it applied in my original comment.
 
油井緋色 said:
I wanna expand on this with regards to both America and Canadian law systems for drug addiction. Most drug addicts are not acting out of free will (aside from the initial mistake, but this isn't too different from a mistake that results in a divorce, or suicide, and etc.)

Yet we send these guys into prison, often a max security prison, and they end up getting raped (not using this term as a joke for once) in the shower. How the **** is this gonna get them off drugs? And to make matters worse, we're paying for this kind of retarded system.

We need more truth and less gaslighting.
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I'm stuck in the Bay Area at the moment and California has these massive tent cities that are populated by the homeless. Many people, including Governor Newsom keep trotting out these claims that these cities are populated mainly by undocumented workers. I would suggest that these people get out of the office and go to a tent city.

A large percentage, if not the majority, of these people actually have mental health and addiction problems. In North America we closed a vast amount of mental help facilities and simply allowed these people to spiral deeper and deeper into a hole that most will never be able to get out off. I think that you can either pay up front to help these people, or pay later to incarcerate them.

Its easier for politicians to claim that the problem is causes by illegals moving here, not that we are responsible for this through funding cuts.

The approach today, which is backed by an enormous amount of tech entrepreneurs and VC's is to simply round them up and put them on a bus to somewhere else. The “Homeward Bound” program was started by Newsom and it transports thousands of people a year. When city staff checked on people 2-3 months after bussing them out of town they found that only a small percentage had found a permanent place to live. Most were either missing, in jail or still homelessness, but just homeless somewhere else. One out of every 4 returned within a year.

Portland and Seattle have the same program

I don't believe its any better in Canada. I was speaking to a Canadian Vet. before Christmas. He was living on the streets in San Francisco and he couldn't get help at home either.
 
Delboy said:
I'm stuck in the Bay Area at the moment and California has these massive tent cities that are populated by the homeless. Many people, including Governor Newsom keep trotting out these claims that these cities are populated mainly by undocumented workers. I would suggest that these people get out of the office and go to a tent city.

A large percentage, if not the majority, of these people actually have mental health and addiction problems. In North America we closed a vast amount of mental help facilities and simply allowed these people to spiral deeper and deeper into a hole that most will never be able to get out off. I think that you can either pay up front to help these people, or pay later to incarcerate them.

Its easier for politicians to claim that the problem is causes by illegals moving here, not that we are responsible for this through funding cuts.

The approach today, which is backed by an enormous amount of tech entrepreneurs and VC's is to simply round them up and put them on a bus to somewhere else. The “Homeward Bound” program was started by Newsom and it transports thousands of people a year. When city staff checked on people 2-3 months after bussing them out of town they found that only a small percentage had found a permanent place to live. Most were either missing, in jail or still homelessness, but just homeless somewhere else. One out of every 4 returned within a year.

Portland and Seattle have the same program

I don't believe its any better in Canada. I was speaking to a Canadian Vet. before Christmas. He was living on the streets in San Francisco and he couldn't get help at home either.
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Ontario is swinging the axe on youth incarceration facilities now. I don't know the whole story but at least two have closed in the past few months. One apparently had 100 staff to care for 6 kids for the past few years so it sounds like the cut was smart but I hope they have implemented some better programs to deal with/help the kids that used to be in those facilities. It could end up like the mental health purge where they eliminated the facilities and let them fend for themselves (which bumps the bill to a lower level of gov't).
 
Show me in the post where I said you’d vote liberal.
 
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