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May 18 accident near danforth ave SB broadview ave
- Thread starter Jimsun
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Unfortunate side effect of carelessness on the rider's part. Was going to fast in a 40, and dumped his bike.
If the bike can stop on it's side, it can stop on it's tires.
Not sure why he's hanging around there screaming and waiting for a ticket.
He would have had to move to the wrong side of the road to hit the car.
I'd say you're better off having them hit you than hitting them if you're going to go that far.
If the bike can stop on it's side, it can stop on it's tires.
Not sure why he's hanging around there screaming and waiting for a ticket.
He would have had to move to the wrong side of the road to hit the car.
I'd say you're better off having them hit you than hitting them if you're going to go that far.
what did i miss? looks like the car was on the right shoulder and made a u-turn, likely in front of the bike and the guy ended up dumping rather then hit the car.
clearly it was not safe to make a u turn from the right lane, not sure why anyone's even looking twice at the rider for this incident.
clearly it was not safe to make a u turn from the right lane, not sure why anyone's even looking twice at the rider for this incident.
If you have a single vehicle accident, you are the only one you can blame, if you're stopping and you fall off.
You could try for the "you made me stop", but they might have had plenty of time, gotten out of the way easily, and you just overreacted.
The rider has to be careful. The pounding on the window and yelling is going to lead to a charge on top of the at-fault crash. It sucks it happened and obviously the car was the precipitator of the crash but as Brian pointed out in post #2, this is on the rider unless there was contact (which does not seem to have happened).
Onus is on everyone. But since the rider will be the one more likely to end up in the morgue, it's especially on him.
Car made a u-turn in front of me 10 minutes ago in a 50 zone. I slowed and avoided him, it wasn't even really a close call.
It takes ~24 metres to stop at that speed. At 40 kph, it only takes 17m to fully stop.
****** me off that he then was going straight through when I was going right though.
Jimsun
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I tried calling the rider a few times but he was too busy dealing with the cops. The rider chased the vehicle when it tried to run during initial confrontation with the at fault vehicle. The at fault driver ended up driving the rider back to the scene 15-20 minutes later and the cops have taken over afterwards. Since I couldn't get a hold of the rider, I ended up giving the footage to the constable in charge and left. The rider looked fine since it was able to sprint and chase the car and didnt lneed medical attention from the EMS that was on scene
you don't have to tell me, i walked away from a left turner accident.
i'm simply saying, the onus is on the driver of the car to check.
obviously if you want to stay alive you have to do your part too.
ScorpionT16
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Sucks either way. Though, if it were me I'd pick the bike back up right away, and ride away (or move it to the parking spot right next to it and pull myself together) and be glad Im able to make sure to be more aware next time. Vs throw a rage and blame, get cops and EMS involved (He seemed to be walking and fine, maybe scuffed or bruised), let alone insurance. A 1-5min ordeal, is gonna become a couple of months long battle at this point
Be interesting to see if any charges are laid, and what they are. Worst case is they get the motorcyclist for street racing or careless. Best case they get the car driver for illegal u-turn. With the way the video is, it's hard to tell how far apart they are, when he goes down, and whether he hit the streetcar track. They could possibly time the bike between fixed positions to get an approximation of speed, but he was definitely outpacing the surrounding traffic by a lot. It would also be interesting to see if he had moved from the left lane to the right at the intersection.
HUH?
Good catch?
Careless is always a possible charge when there is a single vehicle crash. Like brian said, make sure you hit then a little if you are going down.
If it was a cop motorcycle the cager would be facing serious charges. Since it isn't the crash gets written up as a single vehicle collision and the rider sucks it up.
If there was contact it becomes a cager charge but if the rider could have stopped but didn't he could also face charges as one has a responsibility to avoid collisions.
Now you know how a black person feels in the southern USA.
This will continue until the legal system allows civilians to pursue charges. Without that the insurers just throw any repair costs on the riders renewal premiums.
If there was contact it becomes a cager charge but if the rider could have stopped but didn't he could also face charges as one has a responsibility to avoid collisions.
Now you know how a black person feels in the southern USA.
This will continue until the legal system allows civilians to pursue charges. Without that the insurers just throw any repair costs on the riders renewal premiums.
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