M Licence - M2 exit course or Drive test Centre

[taximan62]

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College M2 exit courses are designed to coach you on bad habits so you can pass the test. At $400 for the course you could take the ministry test for $75 if you pass great if not you will know what you are doing wrong after when they review why you failed. Book the test again and you should pass. At most cost is $150 and you saved $250 now not taking a M2 exit course.

 

[7seven7]

I was planning on doing the test at the Barrie location. I'm leaving for Hawaii on April 10th and wants to have my full M for the trip. Sadly, I was told that they aren't booking appointments until later in April and it is all weather based.

This is the info I just got from calling the Drive Centre phone number - (888) 570 - 6110. The chick couldn't even get me into contact with someone to make arrangements to get my full M before the trip. Now sadly I won't be able to ride while I'm down there... I was really looking forward to doing that with the woman.

You can still rent a bike while down there .. I was there in 2013 and 2014 and rented a bike each time I went (m2 license) .. First time I rented a triumph bonneville and last year a ninja 250. Two different shops rented to me with no problem.
Most shops have Harley's for rent and only a couple with sportbikes..

 

[oRRange600]

I did mine at the Brampton Testing Facility by Costco. this was a couple years ago. Was very easy. It was literally take you to the highway to one exit, and then back. One emergency stop. Here is the actual route that i watched before i took it....and it was the exact route. Good Luck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpzXej_2-1o

 

[Baggsy]

I took the course. Learned what my bad habits were, and corrected them before they became a problem.

You could always go out to the boonies to take the test with the MTO, I heard Brantford is popular.

 

[DemonPig]

If the course was cheaper it would make sense. However shelling out $400 ... You can fail 4 times with the ministry, then pass and even fill up your tank for the same money.
It's not that much of a learning course, it's a course that teaches you how to pass the test.
If anyone wishes to enhance their riding skill, there are different courses for that or track days - save money for those.

"Bad habits" are an overused and over stressed phrase. Read a book, read a copy of the test if you feel you have to. Test is super simple, MTO examiner will tell you what he/she's looking for. Anyone taking this test has been on the streets for quite a while. You'll be fine.

Now M1 exit is a different story, for the $400 you get to use their bikes over a period of 2 days and you also get to learn how to ride if you've never done it before.

 

[Baggsy]

If the course was cheaper it would make sense. However shelling out $400 ... You can fail 4 times with the ministry, then pass and even fill up your tank for the same money.
It's not that much of a learning course, it's a course that teaches you how to pass the test.
If anyone wishes to enhance their riding skill, there are different courses for that or track days - save money for those.

"Bad habits" are an overused and over stressed phrase. Read a book, read a copy of the test if you feel you have to. Test is super simple, MTO examiner will tell you what he/she's looking for. Anyone taking this test has been on the streets for quite a while. You'll be fine.

Now M1 exit is a different story, for the $400 you get to use their bikes over a period of 2 days and you also get to learn how to ride if you've never done it before.

With those statements i have have to question whether you've taken the course, somehow I doubt it.

This gets silly. People should take the test way out of town, if their only ambition is to pass.
No sense wasting time failing in the more populated areas, or learning anything new.

 

[kellen]

I took the course. Learned what my bad habits were, and corrected them before they became a problem.

You could always go out to the boonies to take the test with the MTO, I heard Brantford is popular.

I live in Woodstock, had to go to Brantford, closest place to do the test

 

[Touchit]

You could probably sign up for a course the weekend of April 3 and have your full M on the 6th.

Georgian doesn't offer a class until the 10th. If I want to book ahead and do a solo run with the test, they are asking $1000. Now I wanted to get my M, but not that badly.

I really just wanted to do the course to see how I've progressed over the little while of having my bike(s). Always good to see what improvements you can do to better yourself.

 

[hedo2002]

I think Kellen, (sorry got users confused, should read Emefef)..lol was hinting where he teaches they have a course available for the first weekend in Apr. Otherwise he likely wouldn't have suggested you take the course then..lol Not sure where he instructs, maybe shoot him a PM

Georgian doesn't offer a class until the 10th. If I want to book ahead and do a solo run with the test, they are asking $1000. Now I wanted to get my M, but not that badly.

I really just wanted to do the course to see how I've progressed over the little while of having my bike(s). Always good to see what improvements you can do to better yourself.

 

[Emefef]

I'm not sure it's confirmed yet, but I believe our intention (Humber) is to start the first weekend in April. It is Easter, though, so it may depend on demand.

 

[Benny!]

I did the course with learning curves. I wanted to unlearn my bad habits and learn a little more about riding on the road.

 

[N3WMAN]

If you can't pass the DriveTest M2 exit, you probably shouldn't be riding on the road.

 

[JFD]

If you're the type that sees little value in taking a course to learn more, then just do the ministry course.



many strangers on here looking out for your best interests and saving you 300 bux, cuz 300 bux goes a long way.

 

[-JERICHO-]

In a way it scares me that riders who are out there on the road for years feel the need to take a course in order to pass the m2x....yikes

That is quite a large assumption. I can see that point of view, but its too presumptuous. I for example would much rather take the $400 course than bother with the ministry. I think going to some random far away location to do the Ministry test is almost the same type of behavior but with a different reason. JUST PASS and save some $$.

In a way, I agree. In another way, there is that distinction between "needing" it to pass the test, and choosing it because they may learn something they didn't know. I've met a lot of people who knew everything there was to know about riding before they came in for their M. I've met a lot more who knew enough to know that it's impossible to know everything.

This sums up finely what a rider who is proficient might think when considering a M2x course. I enjoy learning from experienced riders. It's always fun to learn a new thing, and then apply it in your own life.

 

[kellen]

That is quite a large assumption. I can see that point of view, but its too presumptuous. I for example would much rather take the $400 course than bother with the ministry. I think going to some random far away location to do the Ministry test is almost the same type of behavior but with a different reason. JUST PASS and save some $$.

Who said anything about going to some random far away location?

 

[-JERICHO-]

Who said anything about going to some random far away location?

You could always go out to the boonies to take the test with the MTO, I heard Brantford is popular.

I did my ministry test in Lindsay...didn't even have to do the highway portion as there is no highway nearby

It was pretty easy.

The implication is in the messages. If there are testing facilities closer to your home address then it would concern me a great deal more to know that there are actually people that would run away from being properly tested. I have to share the road with people that think like that.

 

[Emefef]

If you can't pass the DriveTest M2 exit, you probably shouldn't be riding on the road.

That's for certain...but we've all seen drivers and riders that HAVE passed the G2 Exit or M2 Exit test...and probably shouldn't be riding on the road. The ability to exhibit enough of the desired behaviours for the length of a test doesn't necessarily mean someone is ready. It's just the legal standard that is supposed to evaluate skills on a (mostly) objective basis.

I've had long chats with people that pass both the m1 exit and m2 exit that still need more skills development - and that's AFTER a course. Sometimes people surprise us when they're faced with the stress of a test. People choke after looking great in the practice, and others sail through the parts that gave them the most trouble during practice - they often need a reality check (smack 'em down in their post-test euphoria...)

 

[kania]

There will always be debate about test center vs. course - and it really depends on the individual, and the question being posed:
"Should I take course?"
"Do I need to take a course?"
"Will I learn anything from a course?"
"Is the test hard?"

People get different things out of training. One thing I've found on the forum is that many people feel the training courses or the instructors aren't teaching "real world" skills, that the concepts may be fine in theory, they just don't apply in the real world. So it's great to help you pass the test and get an insurance discount, but no good for riding in the city.
I've been teaching basic rider training for 26 years. I've been teaching and testing M2 Exit for about 20 years (whenever it started, we were the first college doing it). I'm qualified to train and recertify other examiners....and I commute daily from March through December to downtown Toronto applying the skills I teach. We're not safety zealots - we're instructors that encourage people to learn certain techniques and principles, but more importantly learn how and when to apply them. They are based on real world experience. Our instructors are riders that have learned to teach, not teachers who have been handed a curriculum.

On the other hand, there are a lot of skilled riders who have never taken any kind of formal training. I'm an advocate for learning - and some people can do very well without a formal structure, for others I think it's almost a necessity. The only one that can really decide if you should take a course is you...but that has to be based on an honest analysis of your skills and confidence, and that's difficult to do without a frame of reference.

Im going o be taking my m test this spring ... I mite have some bad habits... what are some of the things that you look for when passing a student

 

[fine2ne]

any idea when you can start booking the M2 exit tests? was online and they don't do the tests til may 1 but when can you start booking them? should mention was on yesterday and it doesn't let you. Called and got a million machines, nobody answered the phone. Left a message and nobody called back. Typical govt.

 

[Emefef]

Im going o be taking my m test this spring ... I mite have some bad habits... what are some of the things that you look for when passing a student

Matching boots and gloves.

you can tell from the varied responses that "passing" is pretty much a given. We do the test - we observe and mark what we see. We don't get to choose who to pass or fail (with some exceptions). The thing about taking the course is that you learn more about WHY certain things are on the test...WHY specific techniques are recommended. Then with experience you develop the judgement necessary to know when to do, and when NOT to do those things. "Stay in the right lane left tire track most of the time and move your head around a lot. Stop completely at the stop signs." That advice alone could earn you a test pass, just based on the marking criteria of the test. Somebody said early in the thread that at $75/test you could try it 4 times to pass and still save money. Yep - like trained rats. Simply exhibit the desired behaviour, (after repeated trials) and you get the treat....But you may never learn why. For some people that's enough, but if you don't know why you're doing something, how do you know when or how to do it differently?

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