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Luggage/tie down reccomendations

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This summer I plan to go on a 2-3 week trip (Either out east or out west) and I would like to take my zx6r. I will be camping. I have a small 3 person tent I usually bring with a tarp in case of rain. Does anyone know of a good way to fasten the tent and other things I may need to the back of my bike so it won't blow off? I plan to get sport bike saddle bags (still have to do some looking if anyone can recommend any of them too) but I was also thinking of taking the rear seat off my bike, getting a 1/2" piece of plywood cut maybe 1' x 2 1/2 - 3'. I'd use longer bolts from Home Depot and using washers and nuts as spacers to hold the wood maybe 1/2" off the actual bike fairings. These bolts would screw into the four stock screw holes for the rear fairings that's under the passenger seat. I'd have holes cut around the edges of the ply wood to strap things to.

Does this idea seem stupid?

I did find this - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RENNTEC-B...99?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item53fcbe05b3 but if I could I'd prefer to keep my costs down. Plus that's Ebay UK. It says they ship world wide, I just couldn't find anything similar to this on North American Ebay.
 
A few years ago I took a trip south for a weekend. I got a givi style trunk off eBay got a spare rear seat and mounted the box to the spare seat reinforced it and put it in place. Picked up a pair of expanding sport saddle bags off kijiji and man I could of packed most of my clothes and a pile more.
The trunk not a givi way to much money but similar style was $80 the spare seat off another forum $25 and the saddle bags $30.
$135 and I was good to go. Carried a full case or tools with me packed all the clothes I needed extra shoes, gear, snacks, water, chain lube, and a bottle of Crown Royal on the way home from the duty free.
Lots of people kind of laughed at my set up but hey it worked for me.
 
I have grab handles on mine, so use straps thru them to hold my tent/sleepbag/groundsheet roll....
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I also have a strap across the front of the passenger seat to hold the straps down.
 
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How about Roc Straps?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezfXoCwaJzY

If you go this route, one word of a warning from my own experience... make sure you properly secure any excess length of straps because chains and sprockets get hungry sometimes.


Thread the straps through any loops in your luggage and tighten 'er down. You could go one step further and put all your gear into drybags or duffle bags, preferably with a few loops that will provide you with the option of using more tiedown points so the bag doesn't squirm out of place. The use of a big protective bag you can deploy in other capacities could be quite helpful when camping.
 
+1 for Roc Straps, although my tale of woe includes strap ends and a hot exhaust.
 
I have saddlebags, tank and tail bags if you would like to borrow them. I want them back but you are welcome to use them as long as you promise they are coming back.

I did a 2 week New England tour on my zx with these, I recommend putting a soft cloth down first before you bungee them on.

Just a thought, PM me if you need em
 
Tail bag + dry bag + Rok straps = win!

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I put my tent in a dry bag, plus a few other things, then I use roc straps to strap them down nice and tight. If its all stuffed into a dry bag I would go with roc straps, if its a bunch of different things piled on, I would probably use a cargo net for more coverage over everything. Both are cheap.
 
On a 10-day trip all over the east coast with a friend, I used a tank bag, gymbag covered by a drypack with a bungee net to the frame/passenger pegs and a backpack. lucky for me, backpack rested right against the gym bag and acted as a backrest. My friend was lucky enough to have saddle bags but still bungee'd some stuff down as well. Bring lots of extra bungee cords to prevent the back from shifting. Here are some pics.

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Those Rok Straps look nice but I already have a few light duty ratcheting tie down straps that would look to do the same, if not a more secure job. Thanks for the offer of the bags also, but I would much rather get my own. I have no idea what's going on for my trip yet, just trying to get some ideas and doing some research. I'm either driving down in my car with my parents for the end of June and possibly taking my bike down with us if I can find a trailer or somehow get it in the back of my Edge, or I'm riding down on my own at the end of July or in August. It all depends on what time off work will give me. I'm already taking a week camping trip with a friend to Algonquin May 23-29 so coming back to work for 2 weeks and then taking another 2.5 weeks off may be pushing my luck. Even if I go down with the bike on a trailer I'm going to do some camping around the Cabot with it. My grandmother has lived on the Trail all my life so I'm very familiar with the hiking trails and campgrounds around there.

What sucks for me riding and camping is that I have very low blood pressure and my hands go numb after an hour as it is and I have to lay down on the gas tank from time to time but unlike my old FZ6R the seating position is too aggressive for any back pack I have tried to ever sit on the passenger seat like on the FZ. With any backpack on for more than 10-15 minutes my hands go numb and start tingling and hurt quite a lot. So needless to say, I cant use a backpack on the trip and a tank bag is out too because I need to lay on my tank and I don't want anything between the tank and I. Would be highly uncomfortable. Plus any bag that would still let me see my gauges and that I could lay on would be pretty small and pointless. I think I can get away with saddle bags and either a backpack or small duffel bag strapped horizontally to the back with my tent and tarp on top. I never usually bring too many clothes on camping trips anyway (always smells like smoke anyhow) and anything else I bring are usually small gadgets.

I also have the choice to ride down and my parents drive their Yaris, but I'd rather not do that if I go with them. Would save a lot of money to split gas and their car is getting a bit up there in age. About 200k kms on it now. They make two trips to Sydney and back a year and lots of day trips to Ingonish from there. Lots to think over and lots of great gear examples so far! I'm thinking if the saddle bags are secure enough I can just strap a small duffel horizontally across the rear seat and bags. I don't have any hooks or anything on the under side of my bike and I don't have the rear fender on it anymore either so there's nowhere on the actual bike its self I can strap to except the rear sets. I strapped a backpack to the back in the summer to the rear sets and fender and even then it kept slipping everywhere. I had to re-adjust it every rest stop.

Also on the dry bag thing, I've never had a problem with lining the inside of my backpacks with a couple big garbage bags and just twisting and folding the tops up inside so they can't come loose. Everything else small in side pockets each goes in two ziplock bags. I'm trying to keep the cost of this as low as possible and if I can get away with garbage bags I'll do that.
 
You can make your own version of Rok straps. That's what mine basically are. Just buy the strap and those nylon buckles and rings.
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Im not entirely sure I'd trust plstic snaps for 20-40 lbs of gear over my 300 lb straps to be comletely honest. I also have many bungees, maybe close to 50 of various lengths and thicknesses. I'd want these straps capable of 140-170 kmhish plus head wind for passing. Some passing gaps are very tight on the cabot and other small highways and ive had times I couldn't pass cause of small gaps even with a 300+hp mazdaspeed 3. I hate sitting behind old nova scotioners like my mom at 70-80 kmh lol.
 
See that bungee net on my orange roll? It's from 1987. Use it daily when commuting to hold my backpack...surprised it's still going. I've got 2 new nets that haven't gotten used yet.

The plastic buckles are the same as on the Rok straps....just don't get the really cheap ones.
 
For the longest time I used a ratchet tie down to secure a duffle to the backseat of my bike. Great way to travel.

Soft saddlebags are a waste of money in my opinion. They shift around, they're small and awkwardly shaped so any solid items take up way more space than they need to. My 60L duffle could hold about 30-40% more stuff than my 60L saddlebags. The duffle is also much easier to put on and take off the bike, not to mention way cheaper.
 
+1 for the Rok Straps as well. I used them this past year for a camping trip and they were awesome.

On the 250 I had 2 side bags, tail bag, dry bag, and tent all strapped together. Basically placed the tent under the duffel and ran the RokStraps b/w foot pegs to secure to the bike. Nothing shifted, and everything stayed in place.

Problem was all the weight really affected the bike but it was to be expected.
 
So how long can you comfortably ride? It's over 1800 km one way, two brutal days of riding, or three easy ones.

I've used ratchet and similar straps, and the load shifts and needs to be checked. Attachment points are a pita. I suggest the roc straps because they work for me, in more combinations than I ever imagined, and for about 25 bucks, are worth it.

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That's a good 150 lbs of too much weight that survived 1000km of Labrador highway Including a get off in the gravel and 7000 highway.

You could always post a box of clothing out there prior to the ride.
 

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