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Loud pipes? $110 in Northern Ontario

Mad Mike

Mad Mike

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Wingboy said:
Retired baby boomers moving up north and bitching.They ran over my snow crop! Waaah!
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Is that how you read it? I read it that the land owners that have extended the snowmobilers an opportunity to cross their land got ****** off with the excess noise and decided to do something about it :unsure:

"Landowners, who generously allow for their land to be used for snowmobile trail usage in collaboration with the Ontario Federation of Snowmobile Clubs (OFSC) are quite often the aggrieved parties in these circumstances."
 
No its a thing now. For 40??yrs everybody just left snow machines like the dealer received it, then it became a thing to put Yamaha R1 engines into a sled. Shortly after came performance exhaust and sleds got loud.

Farmers , home owners , cottagers on the trail system, and yes in cottage country a snowmobile trail can run right across your porch, if every body parked the machines at 5pm when it gets dark less of a problem.
But there are always those guys that need to sled at 2am on stupidly loud sleds, it bothers the milk cows, the laying hens and really pisses off the guy thats isolating at his cottage because he'd like to sleep at 2am.

Its not kids, these are 25k sleds and the few are f'ing it up a bit for everybody else.
 
crankcall said:
No its a thing now. For 40??yrs everybody just left snow machines like the dealer received it, then it became a thing to put Yamaha R1 engines into a sled. Shortly after came performance exhaust and sleds got loud.

Farmers , home owners , cottagers on the trail system, and yes in cottage country a snowmobile trail can run right across your porch, if every body parked the machines at 5pm when it gets dark less of a problem.
But there are always those guys that need to sled at 2am on stupidly loud sleds, it bothers the milk cows, the laying hens and really pisses off the guy thats isolating at his cottage because he'd like to sleep at 2am.

Its not kids, these are 25k sleds and the few are f'ing it up a bit for everybody else.
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As with most vehicle exhausts it is the minority that are huge ***** that think of nobody else that cause the problem. My friend put expansion pipes on his sled which had a very noticeable effect on power but he also added mufflers to the end of the pipes (~10" long) so it wasn't so loud. They were the biggest he could fit. Yes, it is still a bit louder than stock as with the expansion pipes there is no room for a suitcase sized muffler but it's not bad. You can easily hear the people that are straight piped.

As for the $110 fine, that is just symbolic. As you said, these are toys that are well into five figures. Another time there should be escalators in the by-law so if you don't want to play along, the fine keeps climbing until you do.
 
I have no issue with fines for modified and excessively loud pipes on any motor vehicle (cars, bikes, snwomobiles etc.....)

The $110 fine is a joke and probably just about a zero deterant. Should be minimum 4 or 5 times that amount and then progressively higher for 2nd, 3rd offenses.
 
The fine is a warning.
Police aren't the ones issuing the complaints :/ unless some of them own property that backs onto a snowmobile trail.
Police respond to complaints by citizens. The whole world got a lot more quiet recently so loud noises draw more attention.
I heard an airplane go over head yesterday

:unsure: or was it the day before.
 
ReSTored said:
I have no issue with fines for modified and excessively loud pipes on any motor vehicle (cars, bikes, snwomobiles etc.....)

The $110 fine is a joke and probably just about a zero deterant. Should be minimum 4 or 5 times that amount and then progressively higher for 2nd, 3rd offenses.
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Not sure if it falls under HTA... does the auto insurance premium also not go up, if this is viewed as a "ticket" ?

..Because the fine may not be a deterant but risking an uptick of $$ on vehicle insurance premiums just might be one.
 
sid_for_speed said:
Not sure if it falls under HTA... does the auto insurance premium also not go up, if this is viewed as a "ticket" ?

..Because the fine may not be a deterant but risking an uptick of $$ on vehicle insurance premiums just might be one.
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Its a fix it ticket. By law
 
Trials said:
The fine is a warning.
Police aren't the ones issuing the complaints :/ unless some of them own property that backs onto a snowmobile trail.
Police respond to complaints by citizens. The whole world got a lot more quiet recently so loud noises draw more attention.
I heard an airplane go over head yesterday

:unsure: or was it the day before.
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My friends plane has a gutted muffler (more power, less weight). While it sounds quite angry when throttled up on the ground, once up in the air, it's hard to tell. Most of the noise is from the prop.
 
In Toronto they have been doing this for bikes already. I was riding through Yorkville one night this year and got caught in an enforcement blitz (no ticket though). Here it's $600 and it's a Toronto by-law ticket, no HTA/insurance ramifications.
 
GreyGhost said:
My friends plane has a gutted muffler (more power, less weight). While it sounds quite angry when throttled up on the ground, once up in the air, it's hard to tell. Most of the noise is from the prop.
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Ya that's the guy ;) he went by here the other day.

:cool: speaking of race fuel W.O.Stinson is awesome, no delivery charge and they are going to bring it right to my door.
 
Trials said:
Ya that's the guy ;) he went by here the other day.

:cool: speaking of race fuel W.O.Stinson is awesome, no delivery charge and they are going to bring it right to my door.
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I can check, but I doubt it was him. He is sticking closer to home these days.
 
Given how much snowmobilers rely on the goodwill of private property owners for a huge portion of their trails and right-of-ways to get to and from some of them, some of them really are their own ******* worse enemies.

As I've said on the "loud pipes" threads in the summer...I don't mind an tasteful setup that has a little bit of a roar in the right conditions, but the obnoxious straight pipe setups (for bikes as well as sleds) are just ignorant.

And when you're relying on private property owners for your trail access, eventually those same people are going to go "**** you" eventually when they're tired of having their windows rattled and being woke up at all hours of the night.
 
PrivatePilot said:
Given how much snowmobilers rely on the goodwill of private property owners for a huge portion of their trails and right-of-ways to get to and from some of them, some of them really are their own ******* worse enemies.

As I've said on the "loud pipes" threads in the summer...I don't mind an tasteful setup that has a little bit of a roar in the right conditions, but the obnoxious straight pipe setups (for bikes as well as sleds) are just ignorant.

And when you're relying on private property owners for your trail access, eventually those same people are going to go "**** you" eventually when they're tired of having their windows rattled and being woke up at all hours of the night.
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This is happening every year, we are constantly doing reroute of the trails do to idiots running cans on their sleds or running off trails on winter wheat
 
ToSlow said:
This is happening every year, we are constantly doing reroute of the trails do to idiots running cans on their sleds or running off trails on winter wheat
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My dads friend years ago owned a farm that had a snowmobile trail run through the edge of one of the fields. He would put up signs and caution tape to keep sleds off the fields, but they would always go through them and rip through the open fields. Eventually he just closed the gate to his field and that part of the trail was closed until they found a new route.


I live in a town that allows snowmobiles on the road. Every time we get snow its neat to see snowmobiles driving through the neighborhood, but after 10pm listening to them gets old pretty quick.
 
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48Connor said:
I live in a town that allows snowmobiles on the road. Every time we get snow its neat to see snowmobiles driving through the neighborhood, but after 10pm listening to them gets old pretty quick.
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Or if you're in Midland, listening to them coming home from the bar @ 2:30 WOT.
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