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Looks like Ford...Got it done!

TK4 said:
And now they're overloaded with work, so they have to more hire assistants. Many smaller Ontario municipalities have a much higher per capita representation. Doug was being vindictive, nothing more and nothing less.
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The reason small centers have more is simply economy of scale. When TO was 5 boroughs, you needed more, some representing local, some regional interests/issues. The amalgamation was done to get efficiencies.

Also remember in small centers a councilor is mostly a part time gig, many are fully employed elsewhere and many are retired -- successful pillars of their communities.
 
Mad Mike said:
The amalgamation was done to get efficiencies.
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Uh, might also have had something to do with trying to blunt the political power of Toronto by attempting to overwhelm the core's left-leaning politics with more conservative 905 suburban votes?

For the record, my sister worked for a downtown Toronto city councillor in the mid- 2000s, and eventually had to give it up because 90-hour work weeks were the norm and she wanted to start a family. Every time she heard some smug suburbanite making a snarky comment about lazy downtown politicians, she'd fly into a rage. As she put it, she could handle differences in politics, but to suggest people who were working literally day and night on behalf of their constituents were milking a cushy job was just too much.
 
TK4 said:
Like Ottawa, Windsor, London or Peterborough ? They didn't face any municipal cuts, just T.O. And doing it right before an election ?
Dougie was getting even for the way felt he and Rob had been treated.
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Toronto was (is) the biggest bondoggling council in Canada. Remember, these council buffoons knew Doug was coming for them... they called the for the election 120 campaign days for their election thinking if they start, Doug couldn't stop them. He did, 69 days before voting day.

69 days is about double athe time of a typical federal or provincial election - both of which cannot exceed 50 days.
 
TK4 said:
Like Ottawa, Windsor, London or Peterborough ? They didn't face any municipal cuts, just T.O. And doing it right before an election ?
Dougie was getting even for the way felt he and Rob had been treated.
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Even if this were true it's a good reminder that you don't burn your bridges and why it pays to mind your Ps and Qs. You never know who you'll be working with or for in the future. I see plenty of people in automotive give everyone the finger on the way out, thinking it's the last they've seen of us. A few years later their new boss was previously on the receiving end of said gesture. I'll let you imagine how it always plays out.
 
TK4 said:
Like Ottawa, Windsor, London or Peterborough ? They didn't face any municipal cuts, just T.O. And doing it right before an election ?
Dougie was getting even for the way felt he and Rob had been treated.
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Ottawa,the biggest spender of your group (after Toronto) spends less than 1/2 that of a Toronto councillor, the other centers a lot less.

I'm sure if TO councillors spent $220k to run their offices instead of $500k, the issue may have been less of a concern and we could have 50 councillors.
 
Mad Mike said:
Ottawa,the biggest spender of your group (after Toronto) spends less than 1/2 that of a Toronto councillor, the other centers a lot less.

I'm sure if TO councillors spent $220k to run their offices instead of $500k, the issue may have been less of a concern and we could have 50 councillors.
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It can be spun over and over..... the main reason he did it was spite, plain and simple.
 
Mad Mike said:
One of the fundamentals of democracy is engaging citizens in the decision naming process. In our style of democracy, your community elects representatives to care for your interests, then sends them to Queen's Park to do your bidding. If your candidate is in power, they have more capacity to take care of your community's needs.

If you live in a community that rejects the views of of the majority of ridings, your MP or MPP doesn't hold the power to help you as much.

Now, that doesn't mean your riding gets punished... it just means the ridings in power comes first, then they come again, then its your turn.
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Even if your candidate is in power, if they're not on the "winning team" not much will get done anyways. As you said, it's a teams sport. So even if your MP or MPP gets elected, and your riding wants xyz vision, in our style of democracy, because the rest of the province doesn't want what you want, you're SOL until the next election, as that vision doesn't align with the current political flavour of the moment.

In the meantime irreparable damage is being done (ie. healthcare, hwy project, disabled ppl, etc) and because your team didn't win you just have to sit pretty and nod lol. Should be an interesting four years.
 
Mad Mike said:
CBC just called it, looks like a strong mandate for Ford.

The first time a leader wins an election its because the people want change. Win again and the voters have confidence.
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But I don't have any confidence in Justin......
 
backmarkerducati said:
It can be spun over and over..... the main reason he did it was spite, plain and simple.
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I think so. He hated how his brother and he were treated in council and it was payback time.

I have no proof of this. But the budgets of these councillors is becoming ridiculous and they’re voting for self-raises while so many are struggling is a nice touch.
 
I've spent a fair amount of time lately in meetings with Oakville managers , and my councillor , and they are BUSY. They are non stop.
What I dont know is how much of their time gets swallowed by the 277th call about the fact its just really cloudy out today , and other useless emails and calls but I imagine there is a lot of that in a day.
 
crankcall said:
What I dont know is how much of their time gets swallowed by the 277th call about the fact its just really cloudy out today , and other useless emails and calls but I imagine there is a lot of that in a day.
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Are calls about the grass clippings in the neighbourhood park after they cut the grass ok? Asking for a friend.
 
If you want speed bumps councillors are great. If you have something else in mind, speedbumps it is.
 
LePhillou said:
...and because your team didn't win you just have to sit pretty and nod lol. Should be an interesting four years.
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My guess is the wait will be more like 8-12 years. It takes a while for the pendulum to swing.

Liberal leaders really blundered the last election... knowing full well they had no chance of winning their only goal should have been to regain party status.

I expect to see DelDucati on an upcoming episode of FailArmy.
 
Mad Mike said:
My guess is the wait will be more like 8-12 years. It takes a while for the pendulum to swing.

Liberal leaders really blundered the last election... knowing full well they had no chance of winning their only goal should have been to regain party status.

I expect to see DelDucati on an upcoming episode of FailArmy.
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Gotta agree with you, somewhat explains the lower turnout too... the same leaders that have been around for too long (or around old administrations too long) that nobody wanted to vote for. People wanted something "new new" or keep whatever theyve been dealing with it seems.
It pains me
 
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