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GreyGhost said:
How are you compressing the rear suspension when it is on the centrestand? Front wheel in the air? That seems dodgy. Are you thinking track stand?
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I've never used the centrestand when trailering, but if you tie down from the passenger foot pegs, the rear suspension would be compressed. Rear tire would be up in the air if the front forks are cranked down harder.

But re-thinking about it, it's probably better to have the rubber of both the front and rear tire on the floor of the trailer so it doesn't slide around laterally when turning or going over bumps.
 
No stands, center or otherwise, please and thank you.
I want the tie straps pulling down on the suspension. As you travel down the road, the straps inevitably loosen a little, no problem the suspension takes up the slack.
When it's sitting solidly on a stand, when it inevitably loosens up, it's loose... and not sitting
on the tires so it slides around real good.
... and if it's sitting on the center stand when it goes over a good bump all the weight of the bike lands on the center stand that was NEVER designed to absorb ANY dynamic load, easily bending or breaking the frame.
I had a Ducati 900SS shipped here from the west coast. The guy strapped it down with the side stand down, the side stand that bolts directly on to the engine casting. Broke a nice CHUNK off the side of the motor. Nothin' a good welder and a half a pound of filler rod can't cure.
 
Listen to bitzz.Waaaay too much thinking going into this one.
 
While we're pontificating....
If you put a bike in the back of a pickup, put the bike in straight, in line with the direction of travel, with the front wheel forward... maybe you'll have to leave the tail gate open. Don't worry if its strapped in correctly, it won't fall out. I haven't lost one yet.
That way, of on the rare chance you rear end the car in front of you the bike bike pivots on the front wheel and does a 360 over the cab, instead of coming through the back window at you if you put the bike in any other way.
 
Regardless of how you decide to move it make certain you stop about 50 km into the trip to check and likely tighten the straps holding it down and then at least once after that.
 
bitzz said:
... That way, of on the rare chance you rear end the car in front of you...
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Holy that's forward thinking.
Reminds me of my grandma saying you should always pack a spare pair of underwear just incase you have to be taken to the hospital.
 
That it very nice work.

As much as I do not need one I want to make one just because.

Our current family car has a wiring hardness in it. But I might put something like this in the future when the car gets changed out.


Would this be considered as "operating a hand held device"? lol
 
Lightcycle said:
My first reaction would be centrestand up, but whether it's up or down, the rear suspension is still being compressed equally on both sides regardless of the weight being on the centrestand or on the rear tire, so it shouldn't matter, right? And you have two contact patches in the rear instead of a single one, so it should be more stable. So maybe centrestand down is better?
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GreyGhost said:
How are you compressing the rear suspension when it is on the centrestand? Front wheel in the air? That seems dodgy. Are you thinking track stand?
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Lightcycle said:
I've never used the centrestand when trailering, but if you tie down from the passenger foot pegs, the rear suspension would be compressed. Rear tire would be up in the air if the front forks are cranked down harder.

But re-thinking about it, it's probably better to have the rubber of both the front and rear tire on the floor of the trailer so it doesn't slide around laterally when turning or going over bumps.
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Seems the consensus is up.

There is no way you could have both front and rear suspension compressed with it down. The bike sits with the rear wheel off the ground normally when using the centre stand.
 
Last cube van I helped load was wood rails not etrack anymore. Need a 1 inch or bigger hook or loop it back to the strap.
 
unL33T said:
There is no way you could have both front and rear suspension compressed with it down. The bike sits with the rear wheel off the ground normally when using the centre stand.
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Again, I've never tried it, so I'm not sure. But I'm trying to visualize it in my mind:

- The centrestand is attached to the frame and contacts the ground.
- The rear suspension connects the swingarm to the subframe.
- If your tie-down point is the rear passenger pegs (on the subframe) and you tighten them down, won't that compress the rear suspension, regardless of whether the front forks are compressed or not?

Whether it's the centrestand or the rear tire contacting the ground, reefing down on the passenger pegs will always compress the rear suspension. If your bike is on the centerstand and you bounce up and down on the passenger seat, that rear spring is going to compress.
 
centre stand becomes the fulcrum

normally positioned with CS down
front tire is on the ground, rear is elevated

pulling down on the rear will bring rear tire to ground
front tire comes off the ground

reefing the rear down after that will compress the shock
but there's no way to get the front back down
 
yup....you could pull the front back down, maybe
but you'd be hyper-extending the forks
pulling the front down by the triples won't work as they are firm to the frame
 
Lightcycle said:
Ok I understand now.

Either the front or the rear tire will touch the ground, but not both, so can't compress one side if that tire isn't down.
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I still don't think both could be compressed. Whichever wheel is off the ground will not have it's associated suspension compressed.
 
unL33T said:
I still don't think both could be compressed. Whichever wheel is off the ground will not have it's associated suspension compressed.
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Yes. My mistake is thinking that it's the subframe that's floating. It's not. It's the swingarm that's floating. The subframe is firmly attached to the frame and centrestand.
 
I prefer red.
Red is faster or stronger in this case. Lol
 
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