Kitchener man charged with racing – 177 km/h in 80 zone on motorcycle

WOW WTF! - I guess no regard for himself, family and others on the road if something went wrong and got hurt or died.
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Um why are you not in a cage instead of a oh so scary mcycle? :rolleyes:

He took his chances and got caught and likely used poor judgement in his choice of road to test the limits.
That's not particularly fast for a modern machine....not particularly unsafe either under out of the way conditions.

Spare us - "think of the family"........all actions carry risk...including your choice to ride.

Glad no one was hurt cept in boyos pocket book big time for a long time.

Coulda been me nailed on the 400 today just by Holland Landing :confused1:....nasty radar trap at bottom of the hill southbound...mind you 77 over is a big number.
 
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This type of threat has become standard on this forum. Somebody does something increadably stupid and dangerous, another group of ill informed, unthinking juvenile hotdogs defends them. If you can't realize the danger of these actions, you belong on a kiddie car. People don't expect to be hit by a bike that they can't even see when they start their movement. It's beginning to look like the site is largely populated by fantasizing 12 year olds.
 
thebipolarbiker said:
This type of threat has become standard on this forum. Somebody does something increadably stupid and dangerous, another group of ill informed, unthinking juvenile hotdogs defends them. If you can't realize the danger of these actions, you belong on a kiddie car. People don't expect to be hit by a bike that they can't even see when they start their movement. It's beginning to look like the site is largely populated by fantasizing 12 year olds.
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We'll have none of that sensible talk round here.
 
What ever this rider was doing "if its true" then he needs to take it a little easy, but the fact is he/she didn't kill anyone. The sooner people realise this is just a way for cops to get more investment for their department when they catch anything like this. And all those idiots that say he could have killed someone or could have done that,"notice the words COULD" use your common sense, when was, or how often does a biker kill another driver in another car or situtation compared to cars?

Somme of you need to get out more and read more, just last week, (i was on Young) and some chick (18-29) in a car talking on her cell phone ran over a 5 year girl and killed her right on the spot, the girls mother was walking with her daughter through the pedestrian walk way, this happened in day light, traffic hour, when it would be near impossible to even go over 80kmh constantly. And just a week before another chick on her phone playing with her little dog destroyed 100,000 dollars of property causing damages running her car into private property and causing alot of havoc. Since i know this planet is currupt like hell, karma will bite everyone in the *** at the end, i hope these kinds of people get whats coming to them.

and this happens "EVERYDAY!!!" people get killed and hurt by these types of people cops don't even look at (you want catch real criminals catch the kid driving his dads work pick up truck when he's not allowed to, catch the stupid chick on her phone putting her make up and playing with their purse dogs, the drunk drivers going from pub to lunch, the huge 18 wheelers etc,its the everyday innocent look alikes that are killing people out there and the morons going to work in the morning)
im one of the victims lucky to be alive from few years ago, but like i said the real careless idiots out there will get karma. This whole idea of going fast and dangerous is soo stupid!"most people i know including my self were hit at under 40kmh with devastating injuries or killed on spot... even a pencil can be dangerous in the hands of a stupid chick or guy swinging it around who can't seem to control themselves. Germany is another example of why speed and fast machines don't kill, its the morons with too much money and no IQ or skill. The way they hand out licenses here, no wonder, and the long system that we have G1,G2,G / M1,M2,M has NOTHING to do with skill, but everything to prevent you from keeping your money and spending more, they know if you are allowed to ride on M1 and are out during the day and get caught riding back at night they can make money off you, riding at night is not automatically going to take your skill back to zero, you can be 14 years old ride a bicycle at night on the road! without a license and your still legal too? does that make sense!

let me just give you an example, i received a careless speeding ticket once for giving a turn signal to turn right then stop make a u turn, stop signal and keep going in the direction i was going because the traffic light wouldn't turn green, it was 3am and a little chilly, i was going home from work, and my work was far from home too, so it used to take me a while to reach, at this point i was only 5 mins away from home. If you look at it i really didn't do anything wrong!, but i got nailed because some cop was in need of filling his quota, and trying to be a mr.perfect know it all, i was too tired to care, i just replied to his question and he let me go with a careless ticket, in court he showed up and i had no option but to take a lesser plea of speeding, when there is no way i could even speed doing what i got the ticket for, but he knew i was a student and young and couldn't afford the time or money to fight it. Yet i've seen cop cars fly by like morons through traffic lights at night thinking no one is around and almost crashing into other cars for running red lights and doing some illegal things according to traffic laws. And the point is driver like the one who was on the cell phone while driving which is "illegal" and killed a little person, end up getting away with the same charges. It made me think, unless i did something really wrong i know im at fault and i should stop...um like killing someone, causing an accident, racing "which i don't" etc...thats legit, not for something so stupid like speeding, most people don't even do the posted speed limit including cops so thats means everyone speeds, while excessive speeds might be safe if done right in Canada thats just too much of a risk to get a hefty fine.

and don't believe everything you read in the newspaper, if the guy was really doing 177kmh in a 80kmh, there is no way a cop car could catch up, this is probably blown out of proportion, looks like the biker was doing 130kmh in a 80kmh and got caught by a cop who just followed him and didn't flash any sirens. And if this was at night there is noooooooooooo way at that speed a cop could lazer and catch that speed on a bike!

So my sympathy is always going to be with the innocent, i almost got killed by these morons who according to cops are not a concern because they are not riding a fast bike or car but a "normal vehicle", and then when i myself own a fast car or bike, i get ticketed for bull ish like making turns, when infact i couldn't be more aware of the dangers of getting killed in moving transportation then the cop behind the wheel???? Telling all of you don't waist your breath its all to do with MONEY, no cop, or government or person cares unless there is money involved for them. You can buy a ss bike without a license as long as you pay cash at a dealership, but when you have to finance, you better have insurance, a motorcycle license and full coverage and so one...get my point!
 
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Given the location of where this happened, I wouldn't jump to the conclusion of this being "incredibly stupid and dangerous" - aside from the rider probably making the mistake of not scoping out the road for police activity first - you gotta do what you gotta do nowadays.

It's flat, there's a kilometer of visibility, there are hardly any driveways and you can see them a kilometer away. There isn't a hazard to other traffic if there ISN'T any other traffic. Sure, someone coming out of their driveway might not be expecting the bike going double the speed limit, but if the rider was on the ball, the rider ought to have seen them starting to move in the driveway and slowed down before it was ever an issue. THERE IS A KILOMETER OF VISIBILITY IN THIS AREA, maybe more. Plenty of room to slow down to a more sane speed if an on-the-ball rider spots someone in the distance moving in their driveway.

Letter-of-the-law compliance is not the only way to stay safe. "Legal" and "safe" are two different words. Sometimes staying "safe" requires doing things that are, strictly speaking, illegal, but I digress, and it's not really applicable to this situation.
 
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... if the guy was really doing 177kmh in a 80kmh, there is no way a cop car could catch up, this is probably blown out of proportion, looks like the biker was doing 130kmh in a 80kmh and got caught by a cop who just followed him and didn't flash any sirens. And if this was at night there is noooooooooooo way at that speed a cop could lazer and catch that speed on a bike!
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Not everyone runs from the cops at every opportunity - although in this case, had the rider in question done just that (and it happens ALL the time!!!) we wouldn't be hearing about it in the news.

Given the Mahoney-Bruer (sp?) situation, the possibility that the charge is trumped-up, or based on an erroneous radar reading, cannot be completely excluded. Mahoney-Bruer was the one who got caught; how many more are there. But, at this point, we can only go by what's stated in the news.
 
Im tired of speed being the sole factor wrthy of punishment on our roads. what about the idiot with a 2 mile long train behind him because hes afraid of 'speed' on the highway. what about the dumb woman who stops on a three lane road because she was supposed to turn left and is in the right lane? what about the arrogant prick whose changing lanes every two seconds to get a car length ahead in traffic?

We need a better system of training and testing drivers, not one which punishes those can can think and react.

That being said, this type of speed is a do at your own risk type of thing.
 
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Wow you are still bringing that video up? I didn't even bother looking at it again, but if it weren't for the crap state of our roads that accident would have never happened. I've gone into a tank slapper at 60 kph... there is NOTHING you can do about it..... it could have ended in the same way.
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Difference being you're still here as you were doing 60...and the other guy isn't....as he wasn't....QED.

I like the bit about "using the streets as your own personal playground" in the write up for that video clip, sums it up perfectly. Playgrounds are for kids.
 
Ya I got lucky... the slapper was so sudden and violent it ripped my hands right off the bars... but the bike kept going straight and settled itself out. However, I had 0 control over the bike and what it was doing.
 
thebipolarbiker said:
This type of threat has become standard on this forum. Somebody does something increadably stupid and dangerous, another group of ill informed, unthinking juvenile hotdogs defends them. If you can't realize the danger of these actions, you belong on a kiddie car. People don't expect to be hit by a bike that they can't even see when they start their movement. It's beginning to look like the site is largely populated by fantasizing 12 year olds.
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Because everyone buys sport bikes to do 80, and 100 km/h..... right ?. Everyone buys a Corvette or performance car to go the speed limit as well. We all twist the wrist on an SS. Society even knows we do, in fact if they are so against it, then don't sell them !. It's simple human temptation to buy something that is capable of something that, by law, you shouldn't do, the curious will do it, and when they find it fun, they will do it again and again until they get caught like this guy. So you really can't blame him, everyone has done it, it's just whether or not you've been caught.
 
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BTW Turbo, I thought you might want to know one of the ironies I have experienced in the "motorcycling culture". The craziest group ride I have been on with regards to SPEED happened with a big group of about 20 or so riders.... say circa 2003/4. Over 50% of that group was either Police, Fire or Paramedics.... there were at least 5 cops in that ride..... maybe more.... from OPP to other regional city police. When the ride started I slotted about 3rd or so at the front. Well .... little did I know I'd be tailing the pack in about 10 minutes of riding. Not only that, but I was getting gapped by 1/4 mile or so until we hit the next corner.... where I'd promptly catch right up again. The front part of the group was going WOT from every corner, or stop sign or whatever. I'm pretty sure there were quite a few guys doing well over 200kph in an 80 zone.... or at least it sure seemed like it.

Anyway - lots of hypocrisy going around, ya know?
 
after all the expenses that this man is about to have, not to mention the increase of insurance if he is given any after, he probably would have been able to afford trackdays till the day he's forced to retire.

this also adds to the big fat *** pile of negatives to all other motorcyclists rep and insurance around here from now on.

I hope he drops the soap.
 
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