KGB dismissal tactics Legal?

This is how people at RIM were dealt with. They were not allowed to go to their desk and their stuff was mailed to their houses.
At my company people who got let go could come in the after hours and collect their stuff.
 
I think there is more to the story so the reason for this person being fired starts to matter. I have never stopped someone from grabbing their stuff when I let them go. I was always with them and only one made a scene.

If it is some hi-tec security operation I can see them doing this. Check your contract, it may have a section covering termination and what the process is.
 
ID is a big issue, but assuming her keys were in her purse how did they expect she would get into her house (put her in a cab and give her a brick for the window...)? Wait for the keys in the mail???

Story sounds fishy, usually they will let you get these things prior to leaving the building or will at least get them for you prior to leaving the building, no idea on the legal requirements. So I bet there is more to the story. Was she completely hysterical and they needed to get her out, was there something criminal involved, was this actually the KGB...?
 
Can't speak for other departments within the company, but when people in IT are let go, it's their manager that collects their personal things from their office and brings it to the front/security desk, then security escorts the person to their car ensuring they leave the property. Saw this happen several times at several companies, in different industries, but it was consistent. The most organized firings were when the 'Bob's' came in and did a re-evaluation (etc etc) and the re-organization had 10 people walked out at 9:30am on a Monday. Funny, none of them were too surprised. Shortly after they were called to a meeting, their managers were in their offices with a box filling it with anything that wasn't company issued. Everyone was out by 10am and off the property.
 
mimico_polak said:
When they did a mass layoff at our company a while back they basically escorted people to their desk to get their phone/wallet/keys and then walked them out. They were allowed to come back after work hours to retrieve their belongings under security so they don't take anything that's not theirs, or damage anything. As for your wife's friend, the reason actually is relevant because for all we know she was threatening a co-worker and if she went back to her desk she may do something unexpected. So yes, reason is relevant to get a proper response.
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This is exactly what happened with my former employer. My department went from around 100 people to less than 50 in a few days and I was one of the unlucky ones. Each of the departing employees was escorted to their desk and allowed to take clothing, wallets and keys. For the other stuff, security escorted people in after hours. Security was pretty picky about what we could take so some people had to appeal to HR to get everything back. I never did find all of my reference books but it was fairly common for people to "borrow" things from unused cubicles.

I was terminated late in the morning and the office was deserted when I went back to my desk to get my personal items.

Jim
 
FiReSTaRT said:
So if someone doesn't object to getting shot, that's legal? :cool:
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Reminds me of one time in court. The crown didn't have my disclosure ready that I had requested 3 months prior and they asked the Judge for an adjournment. The Judge said "I have such and such a day available, x months from now, defendant, do you accept that??" ... the Judge saw me pause and offered up "it's not legal if you don't agree" or something along those lines, so I jumped up and said "Well dammit, then I DON'T AGREE!" boom, charges dismissed, lack of disclosure :D woot.
 
FWIW the manager is an AH with a fragile ego so very concerned about a scene. It's a generic office not military / leading edge IT / stock market etc.

Solution: Do it by phoning them at home. They have their necessaries and the pictures of the kids can be sent later. Or after hours when a return trip to the desk with security doen't raise eyebrows. Security unplugs any IT equipment beforehand so the axee can't do a last minute kamakazi strike.

It goes back to "Can any person legally seize or hold your personal property without a court order?" I would not be leaving without my wallet / ID /credit cards / keys etc. There would be a scene from hell if they thought otherwise.

By their actions they have deprived the person of transportation. What if they had a late doctor's appointment or other engagement and no car or drivers licence?
They have been locked out of their home.
What if they had meds in their purse?
They have no money.

Does this sound like a free country?

BTW Commonly I have to sign into a building and get keys. Occasionally I am asked to leave my driver's licence in exchange for the keys. I refuse to hand my DL over to a minimum wage part time security guard. If he loses my DL what good does keeping the keys do me? They have to figure it out or I move onto my next call.
 
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Diesel said:
The part that I find way over the top is not letting her take her purse including her ID. I would not have left the place and would have called the police myself to come sort that **** out. Even if the company suspects her of stealing, they have no business keeping or going in her purse -- that is only for the police to do if suspicions warranted a charge.
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+1

ike said:
People count for nothing anymore. Money is the new God.
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Its been like this for quite some time...
 
You're dismissed:
[video=youtube;Y5br8tniop0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5br8tniop0[/video]
 
nobbie48 said:
Occasionally I am asked to leave my driver's licence in exchange for the keys. I refuse to hand my DL over to a minimum wage part time security guard. If he loses my DL what good does keeping the keys do me? They have to figure it out or I move onto my next call.
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That was tried at a sensitive construction sight once. 150-200 tradesmen leaving DL with rent a guard? Did not fly.
 
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