great info thanks very much. ive struggled with turn 6 from the first time i went to tmp, im about 8-10 track days in there right now, i tried different lines through it, i dont know if its the nature of the corner or what, ive managed to make it through there nice and clean and with decent speed a couple times but most of the time i hit it wrong. turn two in my second video i managed to get in nice and tight to the turtle and it didnt rock the bike, i went a little wide once and thought i was getting pitched but ill work on coming in sooner and touching the turtle, and turn one i really need to follow one of the real fast guys through to learn the line, im back in a week so ill take what you guys are saying and try to put it to use. everyone has always talked about the right line through turn 1 and how its fairly bump free ive just never had the chance to follow anyone through there to show me the correct path, does anyone have any on board videos of their bikes showing the lines?