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Isle of Man TT 2022

Priller

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It's finally back! Watched the first superbike race today, it was great to see the crowds and riders all there again. McGuinness is there for his last hurrah, as well, though age, injuries and the time off for Covid means he's unlikely to take a win. Peter Hickman, Michael Dunlop, Dean Harrison, Ian Hutchinson, and James Hillier are the main contenders.

If anyone is interested, you can pay a few bucks to stream it all live and on-demand via the following site:.

 
Doesn't Eurosport pass cover mcycle too?
Didn't see it listed but can get on Foxtel in Aus with a 10 day free trial. Missed the forst race :(
 
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boothy from 44 teeth also broke his legs competing :(
 
racers worked hard for safety way back when. Even formed riders unions. I just don't understand the isle of man.
No one makes a rider join the TT. No one's twisting your arm, and the riders know the dangers - the majority of them have ridden the course multiple times.

When people say they should stop the race, it screams I can't do that, so they shouldn't be able to either.
 
No one makes a rider join the TT. No one's twisting your arm, and the riders know the dangers - the majority of them have ridden the course multiple times.
When people say they should stop the race, it screams I can't do that, so they shouldn't be able to either.
I'm not saying they should be stopped, it's their choice. But I wouldn't spectate a game of Russian roulette.
On a percentage basis, about 1% of MotoGP races have a fatality.
For IOM, it's 300%. (Averaging 3 deaths for each race, which is one per year).
You can talk in the abstract about risk, yes everything has risk, but 300 times the risk of MotoGP ?
MotoGP has around 20 races per year, so about 600 races in the 30 years from 1990-2020, and over that period had 6 fatalities.)
 
Some people just operate on a different plane.

Don't worry. There's subtitles ("This French bird speaks better English than me")

 
I'm not saying they should be stopped, it's their choice. But I wouldn't spectate a game of Russian roulette.
On a percentage basis, about 1% of MotoGP races have a fatality.
For IOM, it's 300%. (Averaging 3 deaths for each race, which is one per year).
You can talk in the abstract about risk, yes everything has risk, but 300 times the risk of MotoGP ?
MotoGP has around 20 races per year, so about 600 races in the 30 years from 1990-2020, and over that period had 6 fatalities.)
Again the risks are there, but the riders are aware of it. That's the reason you don't see MotoGP riders doing the TT. Can they do it? For sure they can, but no way are they going to risk it. Personally I'd risk doing the TT than being the guys that fly down the 401 at 200kmh lane splitting and avoiding cars.

Not everyone has to spectate it, but you also need to remember in Europe it's a very popular event that many look forward too.
 
I'm not saying they should be stopped, it's their choice. But I wouldn't spectate a game of Russian roulette.
On a percentage basis, about 1% of MotoGP races have a fatality.
For IOM, it's 300%. (Averaging 3 deaths for each race, which is one per year).
You can talk in the abstract about risk, yes everything has risk, but 300 times the risk of MotoGP ?
MotoGP has around 20 races per year, so about 600 races in the 30 years from 1990-2020, and over that period had 6 fatalities.)

I get where you're coming from, and I'm very conflicted as a fan of these riders. My all-time favourite racer was (is) fellow fat-boy David Jefferies, who was an incredible roads racer, but ultimately died at the Isle of Man. Ultimately for me, the marvel at the racing outweighs the heartbreak of the deaths, particularly as nobody racing is unaware of the risks they're choosing to take. It's not like the old days where GP racers were essentially forced to race there until they went on strike, and nobody is doing it for what little money there is. But I can also see how that scale would balance differently for others.

I'll make a couple other points to what you're saying above:

- The TT is blended with a broader series of Irish Road Racing, including the Northwest 200, Ulster GP, etc. and most of the riders compete across multiple race events. Roads racing is massive in Northern Ireland, as proven by the 50,000+ mourners that paid their respects at Joey Dunlop's funeral.
- It's at the NW200 that Dunlop had a tire delaminate, forcing them to pull their riders out to investigate, but they're back at the Isle of Man.
- The racer who died yesterday did so on a Supersport 600 cc bike, so limiting horsepower isn't necessarily the obvious solution it seems. Deaths haven't grown as horsepower has risen, so the issue is more rider error than speed, as the speeds are high enough to kill, even on slower bikes.
- It's pedantic, as the points remain, but there's typically 8+ races during Race Week at the Isle of Man, not one, plus all the Irish racing events. On the flip side, there's actually three races at each GP event, with more fatalities actually coming in the smaller classes, so it doesn't detract from the point you're making.
 
The unexpected nature of the event is what makes it interesting. The roads are not perfectly paved and corners are not perfectly banked. One can think of it as the opposite end of the spectrum from a NASCAR race. Ironically, as a spectator even, there are far better events to see in person. The race is more of an "event" or "spectacle" or "festival".

I don't feel as if I am watching The Running Man, when I watch it.

Though i do not entirely disagree that is is akin to watching daredevils.
 
Let's not forget that a lot more goes on than just the tt. It's a huge festival. The iom economy leans on it.
 
No one makes a rider join the TT. No one's twisting your arm, and the riders know the dangers - the majority of them have ridden the course multiple times.

When people say they should stop the race, it screams I can't do that, so they shouldn't be able to either.

Haha right. A bunch of Canadians reading news articles, telling professional riders on the other side of the world what they should be allowed to do. Pure comedy.
 
and hockey players didn't want to wear helmets at one time

its a no brainer - we had to protect them

whoever is running the show, has a responsibility for folks safety
 
As far as I can tell, 3 fatalities this year…
Single rider, and a father/son sidecar team.
Please correct me if I’m wrong - and I truly hope you can.. seriously.
 

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