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Is it just me of has the quality of tools gone to hell?

.... Also, how about real tools. Putting up a picture of a screwdriver and calling it a tools is kind of like calling a bicycle a vehicle. It's technically correct, but isn't quite what I pictured.
How about an old Shovel :|

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still works good, I was using it today, will be for sale at the end of this season if anybody needs an old shovel:
 
almost all the time, unless you bought offshore crap, if the tool failed it was user error.
Just because the socket fits the bolt doesn't mean that socket will hold up to 200flbs of torque on a 30" breaker bar. Thats why they make 3/4 and 1" drive socket sets. And big sidewalled impact sockets.
For most things I'd agree with you but I have had terrible luck with mastercrap 3/8 to 1/4 adaptors. They are made of butter. I've twisted them off with a Phillips bit in a screw. Obviously mastercrap isnt the best, but I expect better than that out of even PA.
 
I'm sure they made crap stuff back then, and only the good stuff has survived till now. Rose tinted glasses maybe. I've had two ratchets crap out on me, one Snap-On from the 80s and one Stanley from a few years ago. Both 1/4" drive, maybe no surprise. Probably my fault.

I've only ever felt tool quality was poor when holding a Skill or Jobmate tool. Mastercraft and Maximum is just this side of OK in my opinion. Most other brands have worked fine for me.

I still have the majority of my snap on stuff from when i started my apprenticeship back in 1986. Funny enough when i started out in the UK i bought some cheaper herbrand tools-made in Canada, there stuff was decent also.
 
I sold most of my stuff from my tech days
had been stored in an outbuilding while I was working away from home
the speed with which they rusted was nasty
sold most all of it, 30 year collection to an apprentice
passing it down the line

kept a few things, like my Snap On ratcheting screwdrivers
the stubby in particular has been extremely handy for home and the bikes
glad I kept them

 
How about an old Shovel :|


still works good, I was using it today, will be for sale at the end of this season if anybody needs an old shovel:
How much? My little brother might be interested if he still owns the cottage he bought off of my dad.

Here's what I consider a unicorn of a tool, they seem hard to come by, but are really handy to have.
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My Dads hand tools were mostly Gray brand, it was not pretty but Canadian made and really durable, for a while he was a diesel / large machinery guy. A broken tool was a probelm as replacement could be 3000kms away.
Mine was Snap-on which my dad thought was jewelry , at the prices I think he was right.

There is little in life as awful as being stuck doing a job with crappy tools , if you have experienced better tools.
 
How much? My little brother might be interested if he still owns the cottage he bought off of my dad.
Shovel will be priced close to what I have in it which is ~48 grand, if you are building a big house or need to move a small mountain is perfect because you could not contract the work for less $ and can sell it when you are done just as I will. Is an absolute hoot to operate, I'll really miss that part, she can haul a 40 foot tall oak tree out of the ground and carry it around like it was a carrot. Comes with 2 buckets, 3/4 yard with digging teeth plus a 1 yard soft material bucket and full service manuals. Model is 1998 Robex 130LC3 and the engine is Cummins turbo.
 
Shovel will be priced close to what I have in it which is ~48 grand, if you are building a big house or need to move a small mountain is perfect because you could not contract the work for less $ and can sell it when you are done just as I will. Is an absolute hoot to operate, I'll really miss that part, she can haul a 40 foot tall oak tree out of the ground and carry it around like it was a carrot. Comes with 2 buckets, 3/4 yard with digging teeth plus a 1 yard soft material bucket and full service manuals. Model is 1998 Robex 130LC3 and the engine is Cummins turbo.
I'll trade you. Just kidding.

JD350 B with detachable hoe. I had some rock work I wanted to do beside the driveway, and it would have cost about $8000 to buy the rock. I bought this for the same, and there's no end of rock available within a few hundred yards of the house that I could have for free. I have some other stuff to do, and then can sell it for the same $$, maybe back to the guy I got it from; he misses it.
 

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My Dads hand tools were mostly Gray brand, it was not pretty but Canadian made and really durable, for a while he was a diesel / large machinery guy. A broken tool was a probelm as replacement could be 3000kms away.
Mine was Snap-on which my dad thought was jewelry , at the prices I think he was right.

There is little in life as awful as being stuck doing a job with crappy tools , if you have experienced better tools.

I got hired long time ago to take over a company's shop maintenance where the previous mechanic had purchased one of those $39.95, 200 piece tool kits. A bunch of wrenches stamped from soup cans and screw drivers made from nail stock. 100 of the pieces were hacksaw blades that wouldn't cut squat. He was miffed that I threw them all out.
 
How about an old Shovel :|

shovel-1.jpg

still works good, I was using it today, will be for sale at the end of this season if anybody needs an old shovel:
I used to have a few heavy tools, my fav was my Case 1830 skid steer. I bought it at an auction, it had a backhoe, hydraulic breaker, 1 yd digger bucket and a brush. Cost me $600 for the whole thing and a trailer at a farm auction in 1990. Had a 30hp Nissan industrial diesel - unkillable.
 
I used to have a few heavy tools, my fav was my Case 1830 skid steer. I bought it at an auction, it had a backhoe, hydraulic breaker, 1 yd digger bucket and a brush. Cost me $600 for the whole thing and a trailer at a farm auction in 1990. Had a 30hp Nissan industrial diesel - unkillable.

We were into a deep recession then with double digit interest rates. It was a buyers market if you had cash and the place to store stuff.
 
My Dads hand tools were mostly Gray brand, it was not pretty but Canadian made and really durable

They're still on Orenda in Bramalea. Use to do a lot of work for them.

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I have also noticed that the screws/bolts you get with any "put it together yourself" furniture etc, are crap as well these days.
Give me a decent Robertson screw head - not a hybrid common slot/Phillips soft metal screw-head that ends up rounded out before you can properly tighten it no matter what tool you use!
 
I still have the majority of my snap on stuff from when i started my apprenticeship back in 1986. Funny enough when i started out in the UK i bought some cheaper herbrand tools-made in Canada, there stuff was decent also.
I still have some Herbrand stuff!
 
Quality costs money. You don't get that from Craftsman, Mastercraft, or Husky. Cisco on Dixie Rd. sells professional grade Gray Tools. Then there's Mac Tools and Snap-On. Store bought stuff is okay for the average home-garage job, but they're made in China and worse, India lately. I have no problem with my Mastercraft tools. As long as they're chrome vanadium and not drop-forged there's rarely a problem.
 
Friends of mine now own PL Robertsons mansion , which was built here in Milton where he lived. His 'missed opportunity" was henry ford wanted the screw for his automobile assembly line, it didnt fall off the screwdriver. Robertson balked when Ford demanded an equity position in the company and a guy named Philips became rich and the maker of all automotive hardware for the next 90yrs. Robertson still made bags of cash, but you couldn't find a square drive screw in the US for years.
 

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