stratofortress
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Hadn't heard about any connection with google because TSLA is not one that I've been following. The auto industry is tough. I'm not convinced that the market for all-electric cars that are EXPENSIVE is big enough to sustain the company. I've never owned this one. Looking at it now, it's near its 52-week high. I'd sell it if I owned it. The Tesla Model S sure looks good and I hope I'm wrong.
I made the mistake of listening to a recommendation yesterday to someone else, and bought some call options on it hoping that the earnings would be better than expected. No such luck. I'll be selling them soon.
http://venturebeat.com/2011/07/20/tesla-toyota-100m-rav4-deal/
Tesla ain't stupid. And neither are the manufacturers that recognize its potential. They inked a deal with Toyota, sell to Mercedes. The company is supplying battery packs for Freightliner Trucks. They also work with Panasonic as a partner in battery cell research and development.
Don't kid yourself. Really, don't kid yourself.
The electric and hybrid market will surge rapidly. So will the technology.
Only the foolish would ignore this trend.
Unless you hang your hopes on diesel.
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Hang on to them. They only missed by a penny, weak hands will get shaken out early tomorrow as anaylists will trash the earnings (as they load up), 'Ballsilly' (who thought the top of the world was his forever, put too much precious time in trying to get Hamilton an NHL team rather than TCB @ RIM) is gone, exactly what Fund Mgrs and large investors have been screaming about for months.
Talk of being on the selling block getting stronger......I just might set my alarm for the opening bell tomorrow, and see how Level 2 looks at 9:50am. I don't see to much downside after tomorrow's shake out in the first half hour.
Good luck.
What is everyone's opinion on AAPL? Have been in for about a year now and have some decent gains, wondering if maybe it's time to bail.
Long term, I think the stock still has upward momentum. Scared there might be a short term correction though given the huge increases In the past three months
Long term, I think the stock still has upward momentum. Scared there might be a short term correction though given the huge increases In the past three months
They are far from done. And they are still gobbling up market share like its going out of style.
Although if they don't produce some nifty new products soon, they will stabilize. I see some elements of "complacency" creeping into their business model.
That is more or less what I'm thinking, too. I haven't put the sell order in yet ...
If you've been in for a year, you are up big, and there are a few things you can do.
One is to sell part of what you own to lock in the gains that you've had up until now. But, even if AAPL might stop going up at such a rate, I highly doubt that it will go down much, even if there is a correction. If you don't need the cash from the investment in the near future, just hang on.
Another thing you could do, if you have a "sell" target price (a price beyond which you'd say "enough is enough"), is to sell near-term call options against the stock with a strike price at your sell target. This is a way to extract some cash flow out of it in the meantime, and if it shoots upward and stays up through expiration, you're out of it (called away). Obviously you don't have to write options against your entire position if you don't want to, or you could write half of it at one strike and the other half at a higher strike - up to you. Don't be greedy and set your strike too low when doing this ... unless you want it to be called away. (I've been doing this for quite a while, just not with AAPL.)
Ballsillie is gone, along with other high level execs. Thats all good and fine. But who will they replace with? A bunch of nobodies.
Remember the Titanic?
They really, really, really, need to partner or get bought out with a company like Samsung who knows a thing or two about making hardware. With Google buying Motorola, Nokia in bed with Microsoft, a RIM/Samsung matchup seems like a natural.
http://venturebeat.com/2011/07/20/tesla-toyota-100m-rav4-deal/
Tesla ain't stupid. And neither are the manufacturers that recognize its potential. They inked a deal with Toyota, sell to Mercedes. The company is supplying battery packs for Freightliner Trucks. They also work with Panasonic as a partner in battery cell research and development.
Don't kid yourself. Really, don't kid yourself.
The electric and hybrid market will surge rapidly. So will the technology.
Only the foolish would ignore this trend.
Unless you hang your hopes on diesel.
I'm no investment guru so maybe there's some value in Tesla in some form or other, but their long term value as an automotive manufacturer or technology developer is nil. Even if the future IS electric (slim chance), they will still get crushed by the big players.
Damn, wish I remembered options better from when I did the CSC, really have to brush up on this stuff.
Think I'll hold on for now.
There is a lot he knows that we don't.
toshison
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Ballsillie is gone, along with other high level execs. Thats all good and fine. But who will they replace with? A bunch of nobodies.
Remember the Titanic?
They really, really, really, need to partner or get bought out with a company like Samsung who knows a thing or two about making hardware. With Google buying Motorola, Nokia in bed with Microsoft, a RIM/Samsung matchup seems like a natural.
http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/03/29/new-ceo-finally-has-a-vision-for-rim/
"The company will, however, invest less of its own resources chasing consumers. “We will seek strong partnerships to deliver those consumer features and content that are not central to the BlackBerry proposition—for example, media consumption applications,” Heins said."
Meaning, they aren't going to build gimmicky phones to deal with the constantly changing consumer need. I interpret that as they are going to keeping trucking ahead with a new high end BB10 phone catered to business users and that they are going to push to license the O/S to other hardware manufacturers to deal with the rapid pace consumer market. RIM is just too slow to the punch in that space and if they were to partner with HTC/Samsung or the like, there would be far more Blackberry O'S' out there. I mean, Samsung is incredibly fast with pushing out new products all the time. This might be the first step for RIM eventually pulling away from hardware altogether. I was very happy to hear this. There are lots of issues with Android and if RIM did this (and soon) and the new O/S is everything the hype says it is, they could regain market share by stealing it from Google.
As of 9:33am this morning, the market has responded in a positive way to this news... The numbers don't really matter in the earnings report. People care about the forward vision and in that case, Mr Thorstein Heins did a very good job... He said everything he should of said and RIM's stock price will benefit. There is alot of potential upside for RIM PPS if things go right this year.
Well, I bailed. I missed the pop in RIM after the open, and given my long-term view in the company, I unloaded the options. Took a small loss, but I did a trade in Potash Corp that will hopefully more than make up for it ... (Bought the stock on a dip then sold the next-strike-higher April call option when it came back up some)
killerkeith
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Congrats Day one, you stand to make $300 bucks. LOL @ everyone else.
OpenGambit
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For the Telsa guys - consider looking into LNG vehicles.
How's this scenario?: Mr Softy sits in the weeds while Nokia snatches up RIM. Then Softy emerges and kills 2 birds with one stone? (think about it)
And no, reluctantly, I did not jump aboard the RIM train this morning. (up $1.04 atm)
And no, reluctantly, I did not jump aboard the RIM train this morning. (up $1.04 atm)
Ballsillie is gone, along with other high level execs. Thats all good and fine. But who will they replace with? A bunch of nobodies.
Remember the Titanic?
They really, really, really, need to partner or get bought out with a company like Samsung who knows a thing or two about making hardware. With Google buying Motorola, Nokia in bed with Microsoft, a RIM/Samsung matchup seems like a natural.
toshison
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RIM's share price is doing very good at the moment. Up 7+ % as I type on some fairly heavy duty volume.. It's a little hard to gauge though whether its mostly from shorts covering, HFT's kicking in or legit institutional investors jumping in. Perhaps its a mix of all of the above. It will be interesting to see where the stock goes next week.
Hopefully RIM can ride some of this momentum and the market responds well to the prototype BB10 phones in May. Maybe throw in a few takeover rumours.
booya,
You see, crossing your fingers really does work! This is absolute evidence.
Hopefully RIM can ride some of this momentum and the market responds well to the prototype BB10 phones in May. Maybe throw in a few takeover rumours.
booya,
You see, crossing your fingers really does work! This is absolute evidence.
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