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Inverter?

If you have a river with better then a meter of head you can make your own hydro electricity for a few thousand $
then you have something worthwhile powering that inverter

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I'll bet Fish and Game would have something to say about you installing one of those in navigable waters.
Have you done the required environmental impact studies?
 
I'll bet Fish and Game would have something to say about you installing one of those in navigable waters.
Have you done the required environmental impact studies?
Sad but true. Try to do something to avoid burning fossil fuel and the studies will quickly sale past crazytown for economic viability. If you want to run off fossil fuel things get much simpler.
 
I'll bet Fish and Game would have something to say about you installing one of those in navigable waters.
Have you done the required environmental impact studies?
That ain't no navigable waters unless you're an Otter :LOL:
 
That ain't no navigable waters unless you're an Otter :LOL:
IIRC the definition is brutal. Something like navigable by a minnow counts. Mention Red Side Dace to a developer and watch the blood drain from their head.
 
I promise to only use a little bit of the swamp water spilling out,
absolutely there are minnows, it's a stream midway between 2 healthy fishing lakes
connected by 2 marshlands teaming with wildlife :| I like it that way, I won't be messing it up.
 
I promise to only use a little bit of the swamp water spilling out,
absolutely there are minnows, it's a stream between 2 healthy fishing lakes :|
The chance that the MECP would discover your power plant between two private lakes is low. The chance that your power plant affects much is low. The letter of the law is likely that you need to do all of the required studies, apply for a permit to take water, etc. Hell you need to do a lot of work to put a pond in an existing stream (if you're not a beaver) even though once it is filled, you have obviously not affected inflow nor outflow.
 
I'll bet Fish and Game would have something to say about you installing one of those in navigable waters.
Have you done the required environmental impact studies?
I'm quite sure they'll never ever find out about that item being in there, unless someone speaks up.
 
The chance that the MECP would discover your power plant between two private lakes is low. The chance that your power plant affects much is low. The letter of the law is likely that you need to do all of the required studies, apply for a permit to take water, etc. Hell you need to do a lot of work to put a pond in an existing stream (if you're not a beaver) even though once it is filled, you have obviously not affected inflow nor outflow.
Build pond...blame it on beaver...loophole!
 
About 20 feet wide by 4 feet deep

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To calculate the efficiency of a water turbine you need head and flow.

head (feet) × flow (gpm) ÷ 10 = W
head (m) x flow (l/m) ÷ 125 = W

So... a 4' head through a 6" plastic pipe would give you about 4150gal/min, or about 1655 watts (if you can maintain the flow without draining the pond)
 
Thing is you don't need the whole river, you only need enough to fill the little pipe,
if your water intake is near lake level and your output is at the swamp below you made a big siphon hose to put your turbine in
and the lake level in most cases would be perfect location for your little DC genie because then your electrics can easy sit above water level, that's how that gizmo works.
 
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To calculate the efficiency of a water turbine you need head and flow.

head (feet) × flow (gpm) ÷ 10 = W
head (m) x flow (l/m) ÷ 125 = W

So... a 4' head through a 6" plastic pipe would give you about 4150gal/min, or about 1655 watts (if you can maintain the flow without draining the pond)
Here's the calculator,
the site also gives you details on how to measure the flow rate more accurately
run your numbers through their calculator ;)

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So sort of back to topic, police cars often end up with 80,000kms on the drivetrain and 10,000hrs on an idling engine, but its just powering a laptop and lights so the heavy duty alternator in the" police option " gets it done. Maybe running 200-400w max ? I'm guessing (really I dont know) that you would really draw a lot of heat on an alternator attempting to run at near max, especially if you couldn't increase rpm on the engine and the heat affects the power output of an alternator.
This inverter gadget , an Asian inverter package put into a 'weather proof' cabinet is pretty hooky for the cost.
 
I bought a Honda EU2000 inverter generator for about $1200-$1300 taxes in about ten years ago and it has performed flawlessly. I just checked Kijiji and they are asking $900-$1100 for them used. Not a bad investment if you ask me.
I have an ancient Honda EX800, it's 35 years old. I think it cost $450 in '85, they still fetch $300 today. That's more than a brand new PA 900watt cheepie.

She has bumps and bruises but still runs like a champ. I treated her to a tune up, oil change paint job, new pull cord and fuel line (all were original and still in working order). After sitting in the garage for a few years she's off to kid's hunt camp to live out her days.

You can't beat Honda equipment.
 
The chance that the MECP would discover your power plant between two private lakes is low. The chance that your power plant affects much is low. The letter of the law is likely that you need to do all of the required studies, apply for a permit to take water, etc. Hell you need to do a lot of work to put a pond in an existing stream (if you're not a beaver) even though once it is filled, you have obviously not affected inflow nor outflow.

I was under the impression they used aerial photograph comparisons to spot unauthorized docks at cottages. If the dam caused a larger pond on the upstream side it could be noticed as well.

Now if a couple of trees floated together and the restriction caused water to build up.............
 
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I'll bet Fish and Game would have something to say about you installing one of those in navigable waters.
Have you done the required environmental impact studies?

I thought Ford axed half the staff.

A marina I used to keep a boat at 20ish years ago wanted to dig for some extra slips but the environment officer back then warned them of the serious fines involved of doing so without the proper studies.

The marina manager asked how much the fines were and was told $1500. He replied "Stop at the office on your way out and pick up a cheque."
 

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