Insurance for 20 years old.

Agreed, but that's what I meant by "liability only" - an agent will understand and interpret that as "I want the bare minimums".

Maybe... Thats why because on the phone they asked me if I want full coverage or what else, I said full coverage, apparently if you finace a bike they want you to have fully coverage, look like Im saving up and buy the whole bike.

And one more question.... Do you guys Pay whole year insurance? Or monthly
 
Maybe... Thats why because on the phone they asked me if I want full coverage or what else, I said full coverage, apparently if you finace a bike they want you to have fully coverage, look like Im saving up and buy the whole bike.

And one more question.... Do you guys Pay whole year insurance? Or monthly
I pay monthly. $1/ month extra.

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they asked me if I want full coverage or what else, I said full coverage, apparently if you finace a bike they want you to have fully coverage, look like Im saving up and buy the whole bike.

And one more question.... Do you guys Pay whole year insurance? Or monthly

Yes, that's standard practice on any vehicle that's financed - the bank will require you to have full coverage on it so that if you destroy it...they get paid, otherwise they'd get hosed by people that wreck their vehicles and then decide they don't want to keep making payments on a vehicle that's sitting in a scrapyard somewhere. Would you?

So, when they asked you if the bike was financed and you presumably answered yes (and don't lie, they'll do a lien search and find out anyways...and that can cause a whole other "misrepresentation" ball of wax when it comes to insurance) they automatically quoted you for full coverage...as the bank would be requiring anyways.

That explains a lot with regards to the rate you're getting honestly - hate to have to say it, but in your scenario (age, experience, etc) they're probably rating you based on very high chance you'll have an accident on the bike, and of course that costs them a lot of money when they either have to fix it, or in the case of a total write off...reimburse the bank for it's loan value. I suspect if you ask for a (theoretical) quote on the bike for just the minimum legal requirements (assuming it's paid off and you don't need full coverage) you'll find it more inline with what you might have expected, but you'll have a baseline to go with once you do get it paid off. Is that realistic for you by the spring?

Others, like Joe above (those with more experience, older, etc) get this extra coverage for a not a lot of extra money...but you have too many things going against you at this point hence why it's a LOT more.

As for monthly vs yearly, some carriers allow both, some only do yearly. I'm with Riders Plus and the policy is with Aviva and I got monthly although there was a small monthly upcharge for the privilege, but that's the price you pay to effectively finance a 1 year policy on a monthly basis.
 
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Yes, that's standard practice on any vehicle that's financed - the bank will require you to have full coverage on it so that if you destroy it...they get paid, otherwise they'd get hosed by people that wreck their vehicles and then decide they don't want to keep making payments on a vehicle that's sitting in a scrapyard somewhere. Would you?

So, when they asked you if the bike was financed and you presumably answered yes (and don't lie, they'll do a lien search and find out anyways...and that can cause a whole other "misrepresentation" ball of wax when it comes to insurance) they automatically quoted you for full coverage...as the bank would be requiring anyways.

That explains a lot with regards to the rate you're getting honestly - hate to have to say it, but in your scenario (age, experience, etc) they're probably rating you based on very high chance you'll have an accident on the bike, and of course that costs them a lot of money when they either have to fix it, or in the case of a total write off...reimburse the bank for it's loan value. I suspect if you ask for a (theoretical) quote on the bike for just the minimum legal requirements (assuming it's paid off and you don't need full coverage) you'll find it more inline with what you might have expected, but you'll have a baseline to go with once you do get it paid off. Is that realistic for you by the spring?

Others, like Joe above (those with more experience, older, etc) get this extra coverage for a not a lot of extra money...but you have too many things going against you at this point hence why it's a LOT more.

As for monthly vs yearly, some carriers allow both, some only do yearly. I'm with Riders Plus and the policy is with Aviva and I got monthly although there was a small monthly upcharge for the privilege, but that's the price you pay to effectively finance a 1 year policy on a monthly basis.


Thank you! And thank you guys!
Someone just called me
I said ninja 250 just liability coverage, he quoted me $1500 a year... What a big surprise compare to $11000 a year
 
There ya go. :)

Incentive to get it paid off before spring so that financing issue isn't still over your head come time to put it on the road.
 
Thank you! And thank you guys!
Someone just called me
I said ninja 250 just liability coverage, he quoted me $1500 a year... What a big surprise compare to $11000 a year

One would have hoped that a kind insurance person would have taken the time to explain things to you, but obviously this did not happen. At least you found us, and have received a somewhat reasonable rate.
 
Thank you! And thank you guys!
Someone just called me
I said ninja 250 just liability coverage, he quoted me $1500 a year... What a big surprise compare to $11000 a year

Sorry, who did you end up going with? I'm 21/F and Riders Plus gave me a fairly decent quote for next season, but I'm still looking for lower. :)
 
I know you said that state farm denied you but if you have a car aswell that would be the best bet. Im turning 23 tomorrow but i have my 2005 civic and i got just my m2 this year and my first street bike, which is a 2005 cbr600rr and with my car i only pay $166 a month for my bike which is half the price of the insurance on my car. Td offered me $10000 a year with my bikelmao. I pay a little more for the car but overall with state farm and my age/experience/supersport bike $166 a month with my car aint that bad for my age. Im a male aswell. State farm charges by the cc not the class of bike.
 
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Hey guys new to this forum.

I see people complain about their insurance are high around 3000-4000 and same age as me. Today I called many insurance company to give me a quick quote.

TD $1100 / month
Rider plus $962/ month
Intect $950 /month

I got rejected many places like state farm because I don't have 5 years my G licences which i will in (June 2016) Or experience of riding.

Insurance that rejected me are :
State farm, All State, insurance hotline, John Duffy, Aviva, royal sun. So my question is why is my insurance so high and it's only a 250cc ninja.

got m1 (September) did my course last week, so getting m2 on November.

All clean record

what?? ill be 21 in 9 days and just got my M2, ninja250 clean record, have my G - cheapest ive been quoted is 1800. How are you getting these low quotes.

TD quoted me 3900 for liability
riders plus was like 2400 for liability

i dont get how im getting these high quotes
 
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what?? ill be 21 in 9 days and just got my M2, ninja250 clean record, have my G - cheapest ive been quoted is 1800. How are you getting these low quotes.

TD quoted me 3900 for liability
riders plus was like 2400 for liability

i dont get how im getting these high quotes

Where do you live? Living in Brampton or Scarborough will increase your insurance premiums. Scarborough has terrible drivers, so I can see why premiums are higher.
 
most places give me the 1800-1900 liability only quote, it felt a bit high but i figured that was the rates.. do you think i can find lower?
I was referring to OP'S post not yours. If that's what they are charging you yearly and your new to biking I'd say your rates are about average.

When I started in 1999 on a 180 Yamaha scooter I was paying $1,700 for liability only.
 
Not bad if you consider the rates you're getting. I originally started on a 2008 50cc scooter which I was quoted by

TD $3,210
Riders Plus $1,880
Intact $5,000

Ended up going with Riders Plus which provided my insurance by Echelon Insurance. However I got fed up with the scooter after 3 months "the scooter was purchased by my step dad for my mom who never ridden it after she crashed it in school parking lot, so it's been sitting in garage since 2008" and went out and got myself a 2013 CBR250R ABS the insurance went up to $3,400/yr. However its high do to the fact that the CBR is under financing, not to mention that I live in Brampton (L6S) which has one of the highest insurances rates in Ontario, mostly thanks to certain people doing their insurance fraud. But $3,400/yr isn't that bad if you consider few points

1 - I'm 22 year old male (turning 23 in December of 2015)
2 - I got my M1/M2 late in the riding season so I don't have even a year on record
3 - I don't have G1/G2/G (my G1 expired back in 2013, never bothered to try again)
4 - I live in Brampton specifically L6S postal code which suffers from greatest insurance rates do to high amount of certain nationalities doing there little fraud schemes here

All I know is that if I bought the bike upright I would have to add extra $800 to my existing scooter cost which was $1,880 which would put me into $2,680/yr that is $720/yr saving over my existing insurance policy. Not that bad, still not as cheap as in US or Europe, but it's Canada and specifically Ontario were insurances loves to rip people off.
 
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