****ing bad drivers

[turbodish]

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im not worried, at all. i know alot of cops in the city. and theres no way she got my plate there was soo much dust i couldnt see her car. the salon entrance was on the other side of the building, she was inside when i did it. theres no windows out back

So you did it when she wasn't around? That's so manly of you. How are you now any different from any other common vandal?

Of course later on when someone kicks over or otherwise vandalizes your bike over when you're not on it because of some perceived slight they may feel that you have done to them, you will be totally understanding of what they did, right?

 

[OpenGambit]

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So you did it when she wasn't around? That's so manly of you. How are you now any different from any other common vandal?

Of course later on when someone kicks over or otherwise vandalizes your bike over when you're not on it because of some perceived slight they may feel that you have done to them, you will be totally understanding of what they did, right?

Not everyone is as perfect as you are I guess.

I personally think it was rather restrained.

 

[Holmes]

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So you did it when she wasn't around? That's so manly of you. How are you now any different from any other common vandal?

Of course later on when someone kicks over or otherwise vandalizes your bike over when you're not on it because of some perceived slight they may feel that you have done to them, you will be totally understanding of what they did, right?

I will ask you again... Are you even a biker? Or do you just come on this site after driving your caravan around all day, miserably hating everyone who has it better than you?

 

[hdsomeday]

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...... she was inside when i did it. .......

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA Thats so precious.

Im guessing if it had of been a guy driving we wouldnt have heard a thing about this.

 

[RetroGrouch]

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So you did it when she wasn't around? That's so manly of you. How are you now any different from any other common vandal?

Of course later on when someone kicks over or otherwise vandalizes your bike over when you're not on it because of some perceived slight they may feel that you have done to them, you will be totally understanding of what they did, right?

Always the buzzkill aren't you? I applaud the payback burnout, highly original and inventive.

 

[turbodish]

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I applaud the payback burnout, highly original and inventive.

So you applaud vandalism too. Wonderful. Like I said, when you next piss someone off enough that they feel a need to do damage to your bike, you too will be totally understanding about it and may even applaud it, right?

There's a right way to deal with bad driving. The OP's way wasn't it.

 

[carboncat]

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA Thats so precious.

Im guessing if it had of been a guy driving we wouldnt have heard a thing about this.

guessing, its a bad choise of words. ive been a kickboxer for 13 years. ida knocked his head off.
a chick, what ,hit her ? ?

i wanted to do the burnout cause i wanted payback, without the law involved. nothing more to the story

 

[carboncat]

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lets end the thread here, i wanted to do the damage , i felt bad about it, i did the act out of anger.
if i could do it again, i would have called the cops.


lets not turn this into a ***** fest, like all the other threads.

 

[RetroGrouch]

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So you applaud vandalism too.

Vandalism is damage or destruction of property without any reason. There was a reason for the burnout. If drivers know there may be retribution against their wanton disregard for the safety of others, maybe there would be fewer altercations. It wasn't the cut-off itself, it was the piss-poor attitude the woman displayed towards almost colliding with another vehicle due to her inattention. If she apologized I am absolutely certain it would've been accepted with no hard feelings but she decided to escalate it another level of BS. Fighting BS with BS is fine in my books.

 

[JZ67]

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There's a right way to deal with bad driving. The OP's way wasn't it.

So offer an enlightened alternative. We have all had close calls on our bikes. I've had them too and took the high road. The most recent ocurrence was about 4 weeks ago and it still eats me up when I think about it. Same nonchalant attitude by the driver like my life has no value. So I too stand behind the OP and if karma comes around biting me in the future I'll deal with that when it happens.

The OP had the balls to make a statement and I am sure this driver will get the point. Maybe said driver only comes away with a deep seeded hate for all bikers or maybe learns a more positive lesson. Who the **** knows. Who the **** cares, driver is obviously a self centered ***** anyway.

Maybe it was the drivers karma coming back to pay a visit!

 

[turbodish]

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So offer an enlightened alternative. We have all had close calls on our bikes. I've had them too and took the high road.

Yes, we've all had them, and no doubt we've all caused close calls to others too. Should that give cause for the others to come after us with tire irons on the road, or follow us home or until we stop so they can impose their own idea of what constitutes reasonable "payback" for a collision that never happened?

The primary mechanism to use against such drivers is to drive and ride defensively simply because no driver or rider out there is perfect. They will all make mistakes at some point, as will each one of us here. Some may do so out of gross indifference or carelessness, some out of incompetence, and some despite doing everything as best as can be expected.

It should be an expectation that we will have to dodge another's driving/riding error just as others may have to dodge our own. That's just an inevitable part of driving/riding on busy roads with other traffic. Or should we view violent road rage as being an acceptable expression of discontent with other people's driving/riding errors?

If the error is way out of line there are avenues to deal with it that remain within the bounds of civilized conduct. Roadwatch, calling *OPP or other local police access numbers, making a note and calling in a complaint later from home. At least that way there is a formal complaint on record that police can track a given driver or rider with. There can be formal follow-up by police with the driver in question, and the potential corrective effect of that follow-up can work to benefit OTHER drivers out there.

But going off and doing anonymous damage to a vehicle, especially when the driver is nowhere near it, does none of that. So a person comes out and finds their paint damaged, tires slashed, windows smashed, or whatever else an aggrieved person thinks is appropriate payback. What lesson does that convey except to confirm that there are thugs and vandals out there who have anger management issues over real or perceived slights?

Like I said, we have all and without exception probably caused a close call to others, whether by habitual recklessness or occasional inadvertent miscue. Would we all be so understanding if someone were to cause damage to our prized cars and bikes because of it?

 

[CruisnGrrl]

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turbodish doesn't have to deal with inattentive drivers on the bike because he doesn't go anywhere on it (it's not safe to ride with a car tire)

 

[Buddhacide]

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The police wouldnt do anything to the driver if he were to stop and call them. We all know that. Maybe they would note her plate but big deal. In the grand narrative of justice, this is a win, vigilante or otherwise.

Whether two wrongs make right or not, we shouldnt always be the ones eating gravel

These people deserve a response.

Its not just about the poor driving, its the flippant inconsiderate bratty attitude of these people when you try to address them in a more civilzed manner. She doesnt want to acknowledge she almost hurt you and prefers to give you attitude? Well eat gravel, lol.

 

[turbodish]

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turbodish doesn't have to deal with inattentive drivers on the bike because he doesn't go anywhere on it (it's not safe to ride with a car tire)

It's funny how you never have anything to say in your posts about the subject at hand.

 

[BdaGolfer]

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The OP had the balls to make a statement and I am sure this driver will get the point. Maybe said driver only comes away with a deep seeded hate for all bikers or maybe learns a more positive lesson. Who the **** knows. Who the **** cares, driver is obviously a self centered ***** anyway.

From the description I doubt the driver is clued in enough to even understand what happened to her car. 2 + 2 = 5 and all that....

Alan

 

[turbodish]

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The police wouldnt do anything to the driver if he were to stop and call them. We all know that. Maybe they would note her plate but big deal. In the grand narrative of justice, this is a win, vigilante or otherwise.

Whether two wrongs make right or not, we shouldnt always be the ones eating gravel

These people deserve a response.

In the grand narrative of things, the paint damage will turn into an insurance claim. Because the claim will be under comprehensive coverage with minimal deductible, the car owner's will not be affected but there will be an incremental upward effect on the rates of others.

The car owner might not have seen who did it if she was inside, but others outside may have. They would have no idea what instigated it. All they would see is that a rider went and did a ********* thing to a parked car for no apparent reason. How that turns out to be a win for the image of motorcycle riders as a whole is beyond me.

The grand narrative of justice used to be an eye for an eye, in other words, the retributive penalty for a bad act should be proportional to and not be in excess of the actual harm caused by the bad act in question. So here we have a car damaged as penalty for what? A non-collision? Where is the proportionality or justice in that?

 

[CruisnGrrl]

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It's funny how you never have anything to say in your posts about the subject at hand.

thought the original post was about the OP's experience with a distracted driver...

 

[OpenGambit]

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In the grand narrative of things, the paint damage will turn into an insurance claim. Because the claim will be under comprehensive coverage with minimal deductible, the car owner's will not be affected but there will be an incremental upward effect on the rates of others.

The car owner might not have seen who did it if she was inside, but others outside may have. They would have no idea what instigated it. All they would see is that a rider went and did a ********* thing to a parked car for no apparent reason. How that turns out to be a win for the image of motorcycle riders as a whole is beyond me.

The grand narrative of justice used to be an eye for an eye, in other words, the retributive penalty for a bad act should be proportional to and not be in excess of the actual harm caused by the bad act in question. So here we have a car damaged as penalty for what? A non-collision? Where is the proportionality or justice in that?

If someone shot a gun at you, the fact that they missed doesn't make the act any less culpable. An eye for an eye has nothing to do with it.

 

[dizzy929]

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Like I said, we have all and without exception probably caused a close call to others, whether by habitual recklessness or occasional inadvertent miscue. Would we all be so understanding if someone were to cause damage to our prized cars and bikes because of it?

If acted like an ignorant ****** after the fact to the person I almost killed/harmed........I'd be quite content in saying that I deserved it.

 

[JZ67]

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turbo, I read and fully understand your point but I really need to challenge that a bit here as the OP approached the driver and called out the error.

At that point the driver had the opportunity to take ownership of the actions and at the very least offer an apology. In this case the driver showed no regard for the life and safety of the OP.

By the sounds of your posts, if you were called out, I think you would accept the responsibility, learn and mov e on. Or perhaps you would evaluate it to death and bore the **** out of them.

Either way, the OP still has my support.

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