Indian Scams

There was a post here with a link to another youtube channel which I thought was better then this guy.
 
An Indian friend says they laugh at Canada, not only for these scams but how easy it is to scam a way into the country as well. One he just met at the temple yesterday just came here for vacation and has zero plan to go home, said a lawyer is going to do all his paperwork from here and within 2-3 years get residency at a cost of 60 grand. Working under the table to pay lawyer.
 
Mikedezo44 said:
An Indian friend says they laugh at Canada, not only for these scams but how easy it is to scam a way into the country as well. One he just met at the temple yesterday just came here for vacation and has zero plan to go home, said a lawyer is going to do all his paperwork from here and within 2-3 years get residency at a cost of 60 grand. Working under the table to pay lawyer.
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You cannot apply for residency while you’re in Canada.
 
DownUnder said:
Yes you can, unless something has changed in the last 15 years.
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Bad choice of words on my part.

Yes the PR process has to be done in Canada.

This individual is likely here on a tourist visa. And while it’s theoretically possible to apply and attain a PR on one it would be fairly difficult. You can’t work or study on a tourist visa or qualify for health care. Not only would he have to keep extending the visa upon expiry (which could be denied at any point) but he’s opening himself up to have the application thrown out on misrepresentation. And better hope he brought enough money to live on.
 
Evoex said:
You can’t work or study on a tourist visa or qualify for health care. Not only would he have to keep extending the visa upon expiry (which could be denied at any point) but he’s opening himself up to have the application thrown out on misrepresentation.
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They work under the table for cash, live in rooming houses typically in their own communities and get away with it all the time.

Our immigration system is broken and needs an overhaul.
 
Dimitri said:
They work under the table for cash, live in rooming houses typically in their own communities and get away with it all the time.

Our immigration system is broken and needs an overhaul.
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Sure I never said it was impossible. And if we’re leaning into just taking the illegal route then, sky is the limit.
 
To be completely fair, when it comes to immigration you can really never blame the people (even the ones scam their way in). it is not a people problem, it is a process problem or lack of a process problem. As for the scams many of them target their own race and/or language to "scare" new Canadians into handing over information or cash with the fear of being punished as they may not know all their rights. I will say that the system is flawed and needs improvement.
 
Jampy00 said:
To be completely fair, when it comes to immigration you can really never blame the people (even the ones scam their way in). it is not a people problem, it is a process problem or lack of a process problem. As for the scams many of them target their own race and/or language to "scare" new Canadians into handing over information or cash with the fear of being punished as they may not know all their rights. I will say that the system is flawed and needs improvement.
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so when presented with a flawed process it's everyman for himself? who decides it's flawed?
 
Evoex said:
Bad choice of words on my part.

Yes the PR process has to be done in Canada.

This individual is likely here on a tourist visa. And while it’s theoretically possible to apply and attain a PR on one it would be fairly difficult. You can’t work or study on a tourist visa or qualify for health care. Not only would he have to keep extending the visa upon expiry (which could be denied at any point) but he’s opening himself up to have the application thrown out on misrepresentation. And better hope he brought enough money to live on.
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Yes he is here on tourist visa but these lawyers know the ropes. You also aren't allowed to kill anyone with an illegally imported gun but it seems to be happening every day in Toronto.
Same Indian friend told me he reported multiple people here on fraudulent documents to immigration bureau and nothing is done about it. Also told me about the countless receiving CERB payments while back home for duration of the pandemic. I don't want to get banned either so will leave it at that.
 
Mikedezo44 said:
An Indian friend says they laugh at Canada, not only for these scams but how easy it is to scam a way into the country as well. One he just met at the temple yesterday just came here for vacation and has zero plan to go home, said a lawyer is going to do all his paperwork from here and within 2-3 years get residency at a cost of 60 grand. Working under the table to pay lawyer.
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There is one episode where the Indian scamner says "we will never stop scamming you dumb Americans." Like India has gone full on cyber war with the "haves", being "have nots" and seeing western culture, they want it and they're going to take it anyway they can. They have old ladies going to the bank to remove $35,000 on this channel. The scammers tell them to not answer the bank tellers questions and keep the phone on and hidden. They are quite sophisticated in posing as Microsoft Tech Support and rerouting the victims to their own bank website with instructions on how to remove the money and where to deliver it. It's quite alarming. Keep an eye on your elders.
 
Dimitri said:
They work under the table for cash, live in rooming houses typically in their own communities and get away with it all the time.

Our immigration system is broken and needs an overhaul.
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So "they" do what lots of other people do, and have done, in the past? I remember hearing in the past about all those Italian/Portuguese/whatever construction workers doing it under the table. I'm sure that still happens too.
 
Robp said:
So "they" do what lots of other people do, and have done, in the past?
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Both the comment I replied to and my reply had nothing to do with one particular race. Had to do with immigration law and how people scam the system. Which the current scam seems to be the same across multiple races and cultures.

Hence "they" refering to how most scam the system. If I was going to single out a single race I would have.
 
Evoex said:
so when presented with a flawed process it's everyman for himself? who decides it's flawed?
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So you endorse telemarketing scams and feel the current system is adequate to protect people?
 
Jampy00 said:
So you endorse telemarketing scams and feel the current system is adequate to protect people?
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I feel like you should answer someone’s question before asking them one of your own.
 
If India has become the new scam capital, it’s only because the Nigerian princes have given away all the millions and the Illegal Jamaicans all went home to Jamaica and the guys in Moldavia got tired of hacking businesses for ransom money .
To say the Indians pulling granny scams and laughing at our immigration is pretty naive. The Eastern Europeans ransom entire municipalities and get $250k in one shot , nog dialing thousands of people for fake duct cleaning.
Amateurs at best.


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Evoex said:
I feel like you should answer someone’s question before asking them one of your own.
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My apologies, I felt it was pretty obvious there's a few flaws in our communication systems as they relate to telemarketers and scams.
As this entire post kind of indicates... But whatever...
 
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