In just one hour, 10 out of 12 in the pack busted for street racing.

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Metastable said:
Did you guys watch the video? Yes I know they were speeding.... usually when there was no one else around and they had very good visibility. The pass on the double yellow.... I think it was pretty clean, but hey, BC probably doesn't have the same solid line passing laws as we do. Dunno - immediate ban for what they did.... honestly, I think it is lame. There are folks out there driving clueless at the speed limit that are a much greater danger to people's lives. These guys were IMO relatively safe when they opened it up and they were only putting themselves in danger.

Ya ya I know I know, they broke the laws.... I just think the penalty is a bit too severe for the danger they inflicted to other road users.... which I think is minimal. IMO a cell phone talking speed obeying driver is MUCH more dangerous, because he/she is not paying attention, these guys were paying attention.... but that's just me.

BTW - I didn't see a race.
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"Great catch...." You're on a motorcycle forum taking pleasure in the misfortune of people who ride. Some people will ignore you, some people will call you out, and some people will hunt you down.

turbodish said:
What does that subject have to do with me? Are you that desparate to find any opportunity to slag at me? If so, maybe you should grow up just a bit, or a lot. As far as "turbofacts" are concerned, they are not "my" facts. I use a variety of factual and statistical information from creditable sources to back up my opinions. If you have issues with them, find your own facts to dispute them, if you can. You continually deriding what I present as "turbofacts" or "turbostats" has a lot of resemblance to an immature little kid pounding at the walls and screaming profanities because they don't like what they hear. Surely you can do better than that?
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Prince said:
"Great catch...." You're on a motorcycle forum taking pleasure in the misfortune of people who ride. Some people will ignore you, some people will call you out, and some people will hunt you down.
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I'm taking satisfaction in the fact that police are dealing with the issue of excessively fast and aggressive driving and riding on our roads. That's not the same as taking pleasure in someone's misfortune.

As for "hunting me down", is that a veiled threat? Is that why you're so desperately trying to get people to PM you with where I might be found?
 
And yet again I saw a TPS constable making a left turn at an intersection on church st in Toronto WHILE talking on a cellphone...somehow I think there more important issues to deal with than excessive speed on empty open roads in the boonies.
 
turbodish said:
What does that subject have to do with me? Are you that desperate to find any opportunity to slag at me? If so, maybe you should grow up just a bit, or a lot.

As far as "turbofacts" are concerned, they are not "my" facts. I use a variety of factual and statistical information from creditable sources to back up my opinions. If you have issues with them, find your own facts to dispute them, if you can. You continually deriding what I present as "turbofacts" or "turbostats" has a lot of resemblance to an immature little kid pounding at the walls and screaming profanities because they don't like what they hear. Surely you can do better than that?
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i didn't come up with the concept of turbofacts/turbostats/turbofables, in fact the terms have been used by others long before me, but the names have just kinda stuck, i guess when your twisted facts and sources are called into question often enough they grew a life of their own.
 
95% of riders who own a 600+ cc sportsbike have at one point gone 180+

Watched the video: love them getting all excited about the bikes passing on a double solid... lol wow sooo unsafe o_O
 
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KrazyBones said:
95% of riders who own a 600+ cc sportsbike have at one point gone 180+

Watched the video: love them getting all excited about the bikes passing on a double solid... lol wow sooo unsafe o_O
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its funny, on my ride out west i saw plenty of double solid yellows on straights where it was safe to pass (no bend, rise/drop or intersection in sight) and a few solid one side/dotted other side indicating that it was safe to pass but you were in the middle of a curve (illegal in Ontario)
 
One more thing.

There is NO JUSTIFICATION to confiscate someone's vehicle for any period of time. With DUI its understandable as you cannot drive (it should be towed to your house or impounded for a day tops). Punishment should only be dealt out AFTER you are convicted.

So in Ontario as it stands if i get a stunting ticket... my vehicle gets impound, i take the case to trail, officer doesn't show up or i win, charges get dismissed. I am still out 1000+ for towing and impound, 7 days of missed work etc.

Yes very fair and just.
 
There was a law, and these people appeared to have broken it big time. I know there have been lots of excuses, but what do you do when some holds the law in such low regard? Not applying it to them seems counterintuitive to me.
 
turbodish said:
I didn't link HTA172 to those numbers, did I? However, since you brought it up, per-km-driven fatality rates on the already safest roads in much of the world fell dramatically in the months immediately following since the introduction of HTA172, more-so than any other jurisdiction in North American, and have continued to fall since then.
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SMH.

tell me your are not trying to attribute the reduction of fatalities on HTA172? Maybe in the first 20 minutes after the news reached the masses, but have you driven in Ontario lately?

Everytime I go on the 400 series highways, the majority of people are going in excess of 130. as I have no other means to measure this other than the speed I am going and is still being passed, they could very well be doing over 150km/h.

I'm not even going to waste any more time commenting on anything you put up. I just hope you never do anyting illegal as even to go 10km/h over the posted limit.
 
I have to agree with turbodish. Some of us have chosen to select motorcycles that are not designed to surpass the speed limits, and ride accordingly. With one eye on the speedometer, one eye on the mirrors, and one eye straight ahead, motorcycling can be both safe and enjoyable.
 
Baggsy said:
There was a law, and these people appeared to have broken it big time. I know there have been lots of excuses, but what do you do when some holds the law in such low regard? Not applying it to them seems counterintuitive to me.
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Law without a legitimate reason will always be held in low regard. It's basically someone telling you "you have to obey me just because I say so." May work when you're 10 years old, but not when you double-triple-quadruple it :cool:
 
Baggsy said:
There was a law, and these people appeared to have broken it big time. I know there have been lots of excuses, but what do you do when some holds the law in such low regard? Not applying it to them seems counterintuitive to me.
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Just because the law exist and was broken doesn't mean that the consequences for breaking the law are just.

The street racing laws are created by stupid or pandering politicians to quell all the retards steered by sensational news.

Something like 15 people died from street racing over the past 10 years (not exact stats). I guarantee that this law has destroyed 100s more lives then it has saved.

Somehow people still die on our roads? But how is that possible... the 50 over/stunting law was suppose to make everyone safe?
 
mikbusa said:
I have to agree with turbodish. Some of us have chosen to select motorcycles that are not designed to surpass the speed limits, and ride accordingly. With one eye on the speedometer, one eye on the mirrors, and one eye straight ahead, motorcycling can be both safe and enjoyable.
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C'mon there dude.. You'd have to be darksiding an e-bike while holding a beer for it not to be designed to surpass Ontario's speed limits :cool:
 
mikbusa said:
I have to agree with turbodish. Some of us have chosen to select motorcycles that are not designed to surpass the speed limits, and ride accordingly. With one eye on the speedometer, one eye on the mirrors, and one eye straight ahead, motorcycling can be both safe and enjoyable.
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I see what you did there.
 
mikbusa said:
I have to agree with turbodish. Some of us have chosen to select motorcycles that are not designed to surpass the speed limits, and ride accordingly. With one eye on the speedometer, one eye on the mirrors, and one eye straight ahead, motorcycling can be both safe and enjoyable.
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Dude... That's 3 eyes!!! You lucky s.o.b.
 
overlordjd said:
SMH.

tell me your are not trying to attribute the reduction of fatalities on HTA172? Maybe in the first 20 minutes after the news reached the masses, but have you driven in Ontario lately?

Everytime I go on the 400 series highways, the majority of people are going in excess of 130. as I have no other means to measure this other than the speed I am going and is still being passed, they could very well be doing over 150km/h.

I'm not even going to waste any more time commenting on anything you put up. I just hope you never do anyting illegal as even to go 10km/h over the posted limit.
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So your excuse would be "everyone else is doing it, I was just doing it more"? Does that make it right or legal? Would they be the ones rolling on your throttle? Would you be in control of your bike or some anonymous speeders?

I might not agree with some laws, but I can't just ignore them because they are inconvenient to me, and neither can you.

If I break them then there is a chance that I will be caught and have some major issues to deal with. These people may not have expected to be pulled over, but they should have thought through their actions before engaging in them.

You know what the current consquences of excessive speed in Ontario can be, you need to deal with the situation and be in control.
 
overlordjd said:
Everytime I go on the 400 series highways, the majority of people are going in excess of 130. as I have no other means to measure this other than the speed I am going and is still being passed, they could very well be doing over 150km/h.
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Just to clarify... I'm against HTA 172, I think that insurance shouldn't be affected by tickets and I like peanut butter but that's a load. I stick to the speed limit :angel2: but I've heard that if you're doing 130 you'll get passed by maybe 10% of traffic.
 
mikbusa said:
I have to agree with turbodish. Some of us have chosen to select motorcycles that are not designed to surpass the speed limits, and ride accordingly. With one eye on the speedometer, one eye on the mirrors, and one eye straight ahead, motorcycling can be both safe and enjoyable.
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Im trying to read your comment without laughing at your name and avatar.
What justification do you have for the bike you ride? Cheaper insurance? Lower top speed?

FiReSTaRT said:
C'mon there dude.. You'd have to be darksiding an e-bike while holding a beer for it not to be designed to surpass Ontario's speed limits :cool:
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as I've been told, stop trying to make sense. it is not wanted or appreciated here:lmao:
 
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