Importing a Motor Vehicle To Canada (the be all end all)

i want to say thx to everyone that built this thread. i've reviewed all of this thread and the RIV site, and summarized the process here. if i got anything wrong, can you please let me know. thx.

this post only concerns importing a (street) motorcycle, over 15 years old, from the US to ontario. the bike will be picked up by trailer.

i can ignore most of the information/requirements because the bike is over 15 years old. so i can ignore all the RIV requirements, including:

- the transport canada list of vehicles admissible from the US,
- the alpha-numeric VIN requirements,
- the modification requirements information,
- statement of compliance label (relevant only to confirm the VIN),
- the manufacturer's recall clearance letter, and
- the RIV fee.

i get the vendor to fax me a copy of the title and bill of sale, and then i fax these two documents to US customs (at lewiston, NY) at least 3 days in advance. then i call the US customs office to confirm they do not have any problem with the faxed documents (presumably they are checking to see if the bike is stolen.)

(people recommend using the lewiston border crossing. you have to bring the bike thru the same border crossing that you faxed the documents to.)

[lewiston contact info: http://www.cbp.gov/xp/cgov/toolbox/contacts/ports/ny/0901.xml ]

then i pick up the bike (with the original title and bill of sale), and bring it into ontario through the lewiston border crossing between 8am and 4 pm on a business day. US customs will look at the title and bill of sale and stamp it. (takes 5 minutes) then i drive to canadian customs who will check the title and bill of sale, ask for personal ID and check the VIN on the title matches the VIN on the bike, and get me to pay federal sales tax(GST). i can pay with any major credit card. customs is pretty strict about the declared value, undervalue it at your own risk. there is no customs duty. They give me some paperwork (vehicle import form-form 1) which i need to register the bike in ontario.

i'm finished the process. i drive home, have to get the title changed into my name at the ministry of transport within 6 days, including payment of provincial sales tax. then i can get plates for the bike whenever i get the safety check and insurance arranged.

BTW, i called uhaul, and they permit their rental trailers to be taken into the US. For long distance travel, use one of their ramp trailers ($25/day), not their motorcycle trailer ($15/day).

(thx again for this great thread.)

edit: i'm picking the bike up about mid december and will post how it goes. FYI, i was looking at the ebay.com fine print and their free $20,000 buyer protection coverage covers cdns buying cars in the usa, but not motorcycles:
http://pages.motors.ebay.com/help/community/purchase-protection-eligibility.html

there's some suggestions here about the different ways of paying
http://pages.ebay.com/help/pay/payment.html
 
What about buying used car from US?
How can I transport it back to Ontario? tow it back? or there is moving company to do it? Can I drive it back? but then do I need US plate and temp insurance?

Thanks!
 
i brought the bike across at lewiston yesterday morning at 8:30. it went exactly as described. 5 minutes with US customs, 15/20 minutes with canadian customs and i was on my way. the process for importing a bike over 15 years old is real easy.

some other things i learned:
-make sure the trailer is built for long distance travel. (turns out i rented a Uhaul m/c trailer intended for local use, and ended up with 2 flat tires within 12 hours)
-learn how to tie down the bike properly. ideally the trailer bed should be corrugated metal, run both wheels into one of the grooves and tie down each corner of the bike "firm" to its corner of the trailer. (i had the bike sitting on some pieces of plywood, and then realized the bike would have been more stable if the tires were wedged into the grooved floor.) tie down the bike using just the straps, without using the center or side stand. there's some links here how to tie down a bike:
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-trailer/
-in the winter, no matter how clear the weather seems, cover the bike with sheets, blankets and a tarp. if you're covering a few hundred miles in the middle of the night, you might run into a snow storm and lots of salty slush.
-the tie down straps are cheaper at home depot (4 for $20) than cdn tire,
-take a cell phone for emergencies.
 
etam said:
What about buying used car from US?
How can I transport it back to Ontario? tow it back? or there is moving company to do it? Can I drive it back? but then do I need US plate and temp insurance?

Thanks!

The process for a car is pretty much the same as what is outlined in the first page of this post however it is IMPERATIVE that you check the RIV list of admissible vehicle list before you try to import. If the car is listed as INADMISSIBLE you will not be able to import it no matter what paperwork you have.
 
OK, Looks like you have gone through this quite well. But as I am new to your forum and about to import 2 1971 Triumphs (Bonneville and a Trident) from USA to Canada, I would like to go over it one more time. The Transport Canada list of vehicles that can be imported, does not list any Triumphs prior to 1994. Does this make it more difficult to bring them in? Back in 1971, these bikes had speedos that only show MPH. Do I have to replace the speedos? That would really alter the value of them.

When you import, do the bikes have to run? These ones have been sitting for quite some time and need to be gone over very thoroughly before attempting to start them up.

Thanks for any advice that you can pass along.
 
djball said:
OK, Looks like you have gone through this quite well. But as I am new to your forum and about to import 2 1971 Triumphs (Bonneville and a Trident) from USA to Canada, I would like to go over it one more time. The Transport Canada list of vehicles that can be imported, does not list any Triumphs prior to 1994. Does this make it more difficult to bring them in? Back in 1971, these bikes had speedos that only show MPH. Do I have to replace the speedos? That would really alter the value of them.

When you import, do the bikes have to run? These ones have been sitting for quite some time and need to be gone over very thoroughly before attempting to start them up.

Thanks for any advice that you can pass along.

They are over 15 years old so no RIV requirements apply in regards to import.
 
djball said:
OK, Looks like you have gone through this quite well. But as I am new to your forum and about to import 2 1971 Triumphs (Bonneville and a Trident) from USA to Canada, I would like to go over it one more time. The Transport Canada list of vehicles that can be imported, does not list any Triumphs prior to 1994. Does this make it more difficult to bring them in? Back in 1971, these bikes had speedos that only show MPH. Do I have to replace the speedos? That would really alter the value of them.

When you import, do the bikes have to run? These ones have been sitting for quite some time and need to be gone over very thoroughly before attempting to start them up.

Thanks for any advice that you can pass along.

US customs wants to run a check a few days in advance that the bike is not stolen or have liens against it. Canadian customs wants to confirm that it is over 15 years old and they want the GST. other than that, anything goes if the bike is over 15 years old.

i brought back a 1979 kawasaki KZ1000:
-it wasn't in running condition,
-the speedo was in both mph and kph, but no one went to look at the bike to check it,
-Canadian customs asked me the month and year of production. i had to go check the bike to give them that info, but no one from US customs or Cdn customs ever went to look at the bike for any reason at all.

edit: it might be worth mentioning that advance notice is only given to US customs. no advance notice is given to Cdn customs that the bike is being imported. i just showed up and they only asked if the bike was over 15 years old, and to pay GST. they didn't look at the bike, and they didn't flip through any manual to check the specs of the bike.
 
I really don't mind the inspection. Not a big deal to me. Does it have to be running, or do they just do a visual?

These 2 bikes have not run for a few years and will need a complete going over. Plan to have them both on the road this summer, if not sooner. Being on the Wet Coast here, we are able to ride for more months than you Easterners. Just sometimes hard getting boots over the webbed feet.
 
Hi i just wanted to know if anyone could answer one of my questions, well i'm buying a bike from the states and i talked to the dealership, and they said they woudl be able to ship to me here in toronto, sounds great and all but i ahve no clue fo what i should fill out now, or what i should prepare.
 
new2dascene said:
Hi i just wanted to know if anyone could answer one of my questions, well i'm buying a bike from the states and i talked to the dealership, and they said they woudl be able to ship to me here in toronto, sounds great and all but i ahve no clue fo what i should fill out now, or what i should prepare.

How about you read the first page of this post.... Really do you need someone to hold your hand? :roll:
 
new2dascene said:
Hi i just wanted to know if anyone could answer one of my questions, well i'm buying a bike from the states and i talked to the dealership, and they said they woudl be able to ship to me here in toronto, sounds great and all but i ahve no clue fo what i should fill out now, or what i should prepare.
have you checked the www.riv.ca site to make sure the bike you want to import can be registered in Canada?
http://www.riv.ca/english/US_vehicle_admissibility.pdf
 
Import questions

So, I'm buying a NEW BMW moto in NY and bringing
it in (in a few months). The entire process is pretty clear but I have a couple issues:
since it's brand new I won't have a
NY title (I'm not paying NY taxes, etc). So, what do I use in its place that will make
the US export work and Canada import work.
Also, I want to drive the bike back myself! Any reason why I can't??
 
Anyone ever use ForwardAir to ship the bike into Pearson? I just purchased a bike from Texas and would prefer to ship it to Pearson (forwardair is the same cost to either Buffalo or Pearson). Can it clear customs there? Bike is an 85 model.
 
bear22099 said:
Anyone ever use ForwardAir to ship the bike into Pearson? I just purchased a bike from Texas and would prefer to ship it to Pearson (forwardair is the same cost to either Buffalo or Pearson). Can it clear customs there? Bike is an 85 model.

Never used them. It can clear customs either you use their broker or you do it yourself.
 
NinjaNikki said:
bear22099 said:
Anyone ever use ForwardAir to ship the bike into Pearson? I just purchased a bike from Texas and would prefer to ship it to Pearson (forwardair is the same cost to either Buffalo or Pearson). Can it clear customs there? Bike is an 85 model.

Never used them. It can clear customs either you use their broker or you do it yourself.

I called them today, and they will clear customs for me. They charge $50 brokerage, and for this I think it is worth it. All I need to do is show up at their site once the bike arrives and take it. FWIW, to ship a 600 lb bike from Dallas to Toronto, in their container is $491US. I have a hard time finding an airline to ship me to dallas for that....
 
It is definitely worth importing a bike from the US with the low exchange rate. You could easily save a couple thousand $.
 
It is definitely worth importing a bike from the US right now.
I just imported BMW R1200 CLC. I saved at least 5K
 
Just brought a 2001 Valkyrie Interstate across the border. The purchase price, Indiana state tax, GST, PST, and border fees *combined* were about $2K less than asking price for a similar unit in the Ontario market.

I brought the unit across over the Sarnia / Port Huron border. The US Customs took the title away, came back with it stamped, crossed over to the Canadian side, went to a counter, paid the import processing fee ($200 or so), and GST. All that's left is the PST / licensing.

Couldn't be much easier.

TimK
 
timk519 said:
Just brought a 2001 Valkyrie Interstate across the border. The purchase price, Indiana state tax, GST, PST, and border fees *combined* were about $2K less than asking price for a similar unit in the Ontario market.

I brought the unit across over the Sarnia / Port Huron border. The US Customs took the title away, came back with it stamped, crossed over to the Canadian side, went to a counter, paid the import processing fee ($200 or so), and GST. All that's left is the PST / licensing.

Couldn't be much easier.

TimK


Did you need the recall compliance lettrer from the manufacturer to cross the border, or can that wait until the bike gets its federal inspection?
 
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