I rather dislike the TTC... Especially on days like today.

New subway trains are better. My station has been fixed up and my bus route has received more buses at peak hours. The streetcar arrival times by text have been very useful too.

Of course it's hard to improve without increasing ridership, and it's hard to increase ridership when moody politicians keep handicapping the system with terrible transit planning decisions.
 
Anyone enjoy the Queen West streetcar breakdown this morning? And Miller wanted more of these dinosaurs roaming the streets.
 
It's the fact that at the time of the last hike, the TTC promised better service and reliability.


Wasn't their budget just cut by 10%? I don't know how much the rate hike was last time or even when it was, but didn't they increase service in 2004 and now the pay hike will force them to go back to those higher pre-2004 load factors? Not to mention every commodity like gas and electricity has gone up dramatically since 2004. Not sure how you can improve service in this situation without increasing fees?
 
Anyone enjoy the Queen West streetcar breakdown this morning? And Miller wanted more of these dinosaurs roaming the streets.

New streetcars are already on the way. Subway trains break down too sometimes (we also have a new generation coming online). Subways don't disrupt traffic but they cost 10x more, while buses without dedicated lanes are uselessly unreliable. So what do we do? We could forget about mass transit and go with all cars, as seems to be the current mindset at city hall, though no major city in the world has ever managed to maintain healthy mobility that way.

Maybe we're smarter than all of them.
 
oh my jeeeesas, don't even get me started on the TTC, have been forced to take it since middle school.

Have to take the TTC down town for work everyday now. I use nextbus.com on my phone to see when the bus is coming, makes my wait time a little interesting watching the minutes go down to 1 from 15 after every bus!

http://www.nextbus.com/predictor/stopSelector.jsp?a=ttc
 
New streetcars are already on the way. Subway trains break down too sometimes (we also have a new generation coming online). Subways don't disrupt traffic but they cost 10x more, while buses without dedicated lanes are uselessly unreliable. So what do we do? We could forget about mass transit and go with all cars, as seems to be the current mindset at city hall, though no major city in the world has ever managed to maintain healthy mobility that way.

Maybe we're smarter than all of them.

The best solution involves carpet bombing and/or widespread demolition for new transit system infrastructure..... or a time machine to do it 50 years ago before it was too late.

Any solution that doesn't involve heavy investment in new infrastructure will be like putting a bandaid on a cancer patient.
 
The best solution involves carpet bombing and/or widespread demolition for new transit system infrastructure..... or a time machine to do it 50 years ago before it was too late.

Any solution that doesn't involve heavy investment in new infrastructure will be like putting a bandaid on a cancer patient.

I think the Yonge/Bloor subway lines were a grand investment at the time. I think the province/city dropped the ball 30 years ago..too much bickering between govt's, both provincial and municipal. I don't necessarily think they need huge infrastructure (well, they do actually..) but..I think they could certainly do more with what they have. There's so little co-ordination between municipalities. It's a little embarassing frankly..
 
This is a main reason why I own a car. Public Transit in Canada sucks balls.
 
inflation? What service cost doesn't go up? Hydro, water bill, bike insurance etc?

Funny how the government creates inflation by money printing and low interest rates in order to pay themselves higher wages, they however cause the demise of everything with the same action. Hyper inflation is coming.
 
Do you watch commodity prices go up on the stock exchange? You can always take your car but gas prices are up 20% in the last year. Wages don't go up in the private sector? The TTC wage hike of a dime is about 3%.......that works out to 1% a year since the last hike?
I had a 3% raise at GE last year, and 5% raise the year before.
 
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Funny how the government creates inflation by money printing and low interest rates in order to pay themselves higher wages, they however cause the demise of everything with the same action. Hyper inflation is coming.

Boy thats news to everyone in the public sector.
Facts are your friend.
 
The best solution involves carpet bombing and/or widespread demolition for new transit system infrastructure..... or a time machine to do it 50 years ago before it was too late.

Any solution that doesn't involve heavy investment in new infrastructure will be like putting a bandaid on a cancer patient.

Sure, but the best solution would also cripple us economically. The next best solution is moving forward with the funds that we have, as opposed to not moving forward at all.
 
Sure, but the best solution would also cripple us economically. The next best solution is moving forward with the funds that we have, as opposed to not moving forward at all.

And like I said... bandaid on a cancer patient.
 
Sure, but the best solution would also cripple us economically. The next best solution is moving forward with the funds that we have, as opposed to not moving forward at all.

You know, it took 4 decades for the big three to stem the degradation of their market share because they were so far behind the curve when the imports started coming ashore. But they did what little they could over time, making tiny improvements with every new generation of vehicle and now they've caught up and are in a position to plan for the future and be leaders and innovators again.

Similarly, back in 1913 the Bloor Viaduct was built and the Works Commissioner made the very controversial decision to add a subway passage under the tunnel even though no subway was planned at the time. It took another 48 years before trains ran across that bridge but by planning ahead, millions were saved. At the time he was viewed as a dreamer who wasted taxpayer dollars but looking at it now, it was a no-brainer.

That's the position we need to claw our way back into and all these know-it-alls in the media who decry bike lanes and light rail because they don't have a big picture view need to be shut up so that those with vision and an understanding of how mobility works in a large city can get the damn job done.
 

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