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I lasted 1 whole month without a speeding ticket

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And then it happens.

Luckily the cop was a bike cop and reduced me to a 10km/h over (60 in a 50) as I was a new rider and all.

Now what are my options - I've never been convicted of a speeding offense ever before?



1. Fighting/Trial might piss him off - could he set the ticket up higher if he shows up and I lose?

2. Early Resolution - Meet with prosecutor (discuss possible resolution of the charge) wtf is this?

3. Plea of Guilty - Voluntary payment of total payable.


Thanks.
 
#1. Trial

#2. Request for disclosure

#3. Look for loopholes in disclosure

#4. Hope the cop doesn't show or they forget to give you disclosure or the cop had ****** notes.

#5. If the above doesn't happen, better hope for loop holes!
 
MotorcycleGuy said:
Just plea guilty. It's only 10 over so you won't get any points. Going to trial probably isn't worth your time.
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It's not the points that matter, it's the conviction on his record that depending on the insurance company he could see an increase on his premium.
 
MotorcycleGuy said:
Just plea guilty. It's only 10 over so you won't get any points. Going to trial probably isn't worth your time.
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Never just pay, fight every ticket no matter what, a $20 dollar a month increase over 3 years on your bike and then your car adds up to over a grand for that little 10 over ticket.
 
I'm leaning towards a trial but am worried about the following:

1. What do I say in my defense?

2. Can they raise my ticket if I lose and the cop shows to 20 over?
 
Julz said:
It's not the points that matter, it's the conviction on his record that depending on the insurance company he could see an increase on his premium.
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+1

Just happened to a family member. Speeding, reduced to 10 over. Decided to do early resolution (you meet with the crown and plead guilty to the "lesser charge" of 10 over.

renewal for insurance came 1 month later, up 15/mth for (I assume) 3 years that it stays on your insurance record.

you can try fighting but they will likely whack you with the actual speed you were going. Then you pay more and have demerit points also. A fight is still a fight, maybe you get off, maybe you get lucky...

99.9% sure you're screwed either way except that 0.1% where the cop doesn't show up. Undoubtedly they will show as they get paid time and a half or double time for showing up to court.
 
It's hard to fight a ticket that has been reduced
If its marked on the ticked the crown won't even budge on it
Look on the ticket there should be a box that says code if there is an (R) good luck
Don't even try first attendance
 
First attendance is a BIG waste of time. Whether you get nailed with 30 over or 10 over, your insurance rates will be affected the same - it's a "minor conviction" as per your insurance company. You got nothing to lose by fighting it all the way. ticketcombat.com is a good resource
 
Demerit points are only for your license, they have nothing to do with insurance.

1 minor ticket probably won't do anything to your insurance, but if you get a second one that'll change things.

Basically if you think you won't get any tickets in the next 3 years, pay it now because if you fight it and lose, your ticket conviction will start on that trial date that you were convicted. For example, it took me almost 3 years to fight a speeding ticket. Even if I didn't fight it, overall it wouldnt' have affected me, BUT if I fought and didn't win I got a ticket next year I'd be screwed.
 
The Crown can opt to restore the original speed that the officer observed you traveling at. They do this to dissuade people from wasting the their and the Courts time when they had already been given a deal at the side of the road. The others are right in that your insurance could go up and it could cost you more over the long run of 3yrs. Check with your insurance rep and see if your company forgives first tickets and then decide if you want to gamble and fight the speed charge.
 
FiReSTaRT said:
First attendance is a BIG waste of time. Whether you get nailed with 30 over or 10 over, your insurance rates will be affected the same - it's a "minor conviction" as per your insurance company. You got nothing to lose by fighting it all the way. ticketcombat.com is a good resource
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Well I guess I do have something to lose:

I could end up paying my 20 over charge couldn't I?
 
Ha! If you would have been on a 600 SS, you wouldn't have to stop, you're above the law at that point!

Personally, I fight every ticket I get, I don't want anything on my record.
It doesn't matter if it's a minor ticket or not, fight it.
 
So is it worth the risk then if 10 over and 20 over will be the same?
 
e90 said:
Well I guess I do have something to lose:

I could end up paying my 20 over charge couldn't I?
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The ticket amount is the least of your concerns there.. It's the insurance rate increase over the 3 year period that's the real issue. One ticket won't affect it or it will be minimal with most companies, but then you gotta ride with a tight spincter for 3 years until the conviction goes off your record - to me, the chance at getting the peace of mind back is worth a lot more than the effort/expense of fighting it.
 
I have never had insurance go up for a speeding ticket. Have not had one in probably 4 or 5 years, but when I did, I never had my insurance go up, always gone down. But again, was not getting a few tickets a year, one every year or two, so they probably don't pay much attention to infractions that are not happing regularly.
 
Trial.

Use the old section 11b loop hole:

Section 11(b) provides that
“11. Any person charged with an offence has the right... (b) to be tried within a reasonable time; ”
It's a fair bit of work but there is lots of information online detailing what you have to do. I've done it before and it worked for me.
 
Treize said:
Trial.

Use the old section 11b loop hole:

Section 11(b) provides that
“11. Any person charged with an offence has the right... (b) to be tried within a reasonable time;”
It's a fair bit of work but there is lots of information online detailing what you have to do. I've done it before and it worked for me.
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So basically I have 2 options:


1. Trial - Hope the cop doesn't show and risk getting a 20 over (which will be the same for insurance)

2. Pay the ticket and hope to not get another one.
 
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