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caboose483 said:
Do you think one group is more qualified to provide accurate numbers? Also, what's the difference between a scientist and an engineer in this role?
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What I am saying is that a scientist would not be in this role, and if they are, they are not doing science work.
Scientists test hypotheses and design experiments to test hypotheses -- you know, following the scientific method to better understand something or solve a problem.

If the car is completely designed and being mass produced and an engineer rolls it onto adynamometer (or whatever they use) to determine the fuel consumption/hp/torque, etc, I do not call that the role of a scientist. That is the role of an engineer who tests tolerances, safety standards, design specifications, etc..

I am not trying to imply that one is superior to another, if that is how you took it, but I am implying that scientists and engineers have different roles.
 
Red_Liner740 said:
You know those long hills where if you stay in gear you almost let go of the gas to maintain the speed? Steep enough hill and you actually start to engine brake...well, That little gas pedal holding you're doing is sending fuel to maintain the RPM, nothing more as the cars momentum is propelling it down the hill. Throw it in neutral and watch that MPG go from 40's to 300's!!
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On a related note ... Most modern engines cut off the fuel completely during deceleration if the RPM is above a certain point. With my diesel engine, it injects zero fuel if the RPM is above idle at all if your foot is off the accelerator pedal.

So when approaching something where you know you are going to have to stop, or when coasting down a hill ... leave it in gear, in the highest gear that gives RPM above idle, and drop down a gear at a time to keep the revs above idle. This not only saves fuel but also saves the brakes. (The wear on the clutch is nil as long as you are not slipping it. 403k on the original clutch)

The Scangauge will tell you this, if you have one.
 
Yea, engine breaking....If i know i have to stop i use it all the time...if you're trying to coast for distance, not good.
 
Diesel said:
What I am saying is that a scientist would not be in this role, and if they are, they are not doing science work.
Scientists test hypotheses and design experiments to test hypotheses -- you know, following the scientific method to better understand something or solve a problem.

If the car is completely designed and being mass produced and an engineer rolls it onto adynamometer (or whatever they use) to determine the fuel consumption/hp/torque, etc, I do not call that the role of a scientist. That is the role of an engineer who tests tolerances, safety standards, design specifications, etc..

I am not trying to imply that one is superior to another, if that is how you took it, but I am implying that scientists and engineers have different roles.
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The method developed to perform the test is based on science, is it not? That's why I suggested that those who have a problem with the methodology used to gather fuel consumption figures must have a problem with science itself.
 
LiNK666 said:
Any word on compensation? LiNK666 needs to be compensated. Drove a lot already!
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Stop by a dealer and they'll run the fuel compensation claim, takes five minutes at most.
 
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