How to help a friend who got laid off today.

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So it's Monday morning, an hour into the work week and suddenly management deems that a couple employees no longer "fit" for the new direction we are headed. These were people who worked late hours, were liked around the office and never rubbed anyone the wrong way. I'm PO'd since they decided to do it right before christmas and not on a friday...

So my question is what can I do to help them out? I've been sending them opportunities I know at other places, but I want to do something extra. Any ideas?
 
Hold off.

See if you're still there Friday.
 
Hold off.

See if you're still there Friday.

+1. I watched 13 people get walked out of our company a few months ago. All very experienced and management. Same reason, restructure no longer fit in.
 
December is popular for firings.
Did they get severance, pay in leuie?
If they worked unpaid overtime they can get that too if they are not management or supervisors if they kept track of hours
 
Tim Hortons and McDonalds are always hiring if they are fast and capable. If they use their brain and don't steal they can be a supervisor or manager in a few years!
 
Tell them to check out Skyjack, their hiring for all positions or at least that's what the sign up front says.

I know a good head hunter in Kitchener too if you want me to PM it to you, let me know.

I'm tapped out after this but it could help.

****ing heartless company you work for man. Sorry but that's a total dick move on their part.
 
Keeping in touch after they are let go would be helpful. Also, encourage networking, put out the word to your colleagues in other companies, to make them aware that they are now looking for a Job. The majority of good Jobs are never advertised but are posted internally and/or given to referrals. Some companies provide incentives to their employees in assisting the HR department in locating employees. It saves them advertising costs and helps them locate Qualified people. One reason I see companies letting people this time of year is that they will then not have to pay them from the Statutory Holidays or plant shut down. It can also interrupt ones years of service and company pension entitlement.
 
So it's Monday morning, an hour into the work week and suddenly management deems that a couple employees no longer "fit" for the new direction we are headed. These were people who worked late hours, were liked around the office and never rubbed anyone the wrong way. I'm PO'd since they decided to do it right before christmas and not on a friday...

Never dismiss on a Friday, although saying that any day in December is offside.
 
If it happens to you be careful how you say goodbye. A friend down east got canned (Age discrimination but hard to prove) and let loose a verbal toilet on his boss. The boss put the firing down under just cause and now buddy doesn't get EI. If he wants to fight the tribunal he has to take it to the supreme court. Buddy's second mistake was not being prepared for the tribunal, therefore losing to fabricated evidence.

As far as what to do for your co-worker, unless you can afford to support him / her financially all you can do is offer to be a good reference, keep looking for leads and some times just be a good listener.
 
I would be supportive, listen to them, and offer to serve as a reference if you are comfortable doing that. I would also recommend you warm up your network of contacts and head hunters. I don't know why your management chose to do this now but I think that we are going into another round of consolidations and belt tightening and this means more layoffs. I have heard from a few people in different companies that there may be a wave of layoffs in January. Of course this is all hearsay but it doesn't hurt to be prepared.

So it's Monday morning, an hour into the work week and suddenly management deems that a couple employees no longer "fit" for the new direction we are headed. These were people who worked late hours, were liked around the office and never rubbed anyone the wrong way. I'm PO'd since they decided to do it right before christmas and not on a friday...

So my question is what can I do to help them out? I've been sending them opportunities I know at other places, but I want to do something extra. Any ideas?
 
If it happens to you be careful how you say goodbye. A friend down east got canned (Age discrimination but hard to prove) and let loose a verbal toilet on his boss. The boss put the firing down under just cause and now buddy doesn't get EI. If he wants to fight the tribunal he has to take it to the supreme court. Buddy's second mistake was not being prepared for the tribunal, therefore losing to fabricated evidence.

As far as what to do for your co-worker, unless you can afford to support him / her financially all you can do is offer to be a good reference, keep looking for leads and some times just be a good listener.

You can be let go for any reason or no reason at all in Canada as long as they give you severance etc.
 
Have them contact the Employment Standards Branch. Have them do it as soon as possible. YESTERDAY! If they've been "laid off" but they are never going to be brought back, then they've been functionally terminated. There are differences between how a termination and a lay off are handled. They may be due termination pay, in addition to 2 weeks pay in lieu of notice, and if so it will be one week's pay per year of employment.

http://www.labour.gov.on.ca/english/es/

I was once "laid off" by a company that actually closed the Eastern Canada branch of the company and sold the building. Pretty hard to get called back to a place that no longer exists. I had worked for them for seven years but because it was a "lay off", I wasn't going to get much of anything. The Employment Standards Branch pursued them over what was actually a dismissal. The result was 2 weeks pay in lieu of notice, starting the day I was given written notice (the day I walked out the door for the last time), my outstanding vacation pay, plus seven weeks pay (one week for every year of employment).

Additionally, the reason that they were "laid off" is important. If the written notice says the reason was "lack of work", but they hire people to replace them, then they could be looking at grounds for a wrongful dismissal suit.
 
I believe after you have agreed to a severance the employer can do whatever they want, include hire people. In addition, severance only applies if the employee has 5 years with the company. Even if they fire a person on discriminatory grounds 2 years pay is the most you can hope for. The point of severance is to take care of issues of wrongfull dissmissal.

Damages for Wrongful Dismissal

So, is it worth it to sue for wrongful dismissal? How much can you recover?

A court will compensate you for salary and benefits proved to have been lost during the reasonable notice period, minus any severance pay or notice you actually received.

Be aware that you have a duty to seek new employment after any employment dismissal and the courts will consider your efforts to do so. Any money you earned or should have been earned during the reasonable notice period will also be deducted from any judgment for damages.

For instance, if you are entitled to a reasonable notice period of eight months and only received eight weeks of notice before being terminated and you could have earned money at a new job during that reasonable notice period, a court would most likely calculate the damages to include eight months' salary and benefits. Benefits that the courts have awarded damages for include:

Bonuses
Stock options
Pension, insurance, medical plans
Moving expenses
Vacation pay
Other benefits which would have been earned if employment had continued.
Aside from compensating for lost salary and benefits during the reasonable notice period, courts may, in limited circumstances, compensate a terminated employee for an employer's extreme behaviour. Extreme behaviour includes causing mental distress, defamation or loss of reputation and assault, to name a few. As well, employees may be compensated for leaving a previous employer at the insistence of the employer who dismissed them.
 
Happened to my 60yr old mom, They had her train a fresh out of university student for 3 years and then all in one year 10 people (All over the age of 50 who had been training younger people) and let them all go.
Very hard for her to fight it since it was a lawyers office and made sure to find any and all loopholes in the system.
 
Happened to my 60yr old mom, They had her train a fresh out of university student for 3 years and then all in one year 10 people (All over the age of 50 who had been training younger people) and let them all go.
Very hard for her to fight it since it was a lawyers office and made sure to find any and all loopholes in the system.

Gotta be careful u're not training your replacement

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Hi murf,
All Excellent points - people need to be aware that they a required to seek employment while waiting for a settlement that may take years. Also noticed that it was easier for me to locate a Job when I was working. Therefore if the company has given you notice or you suspect a right sizing. ( New HR buzz word) you might want to consider using the remaining time at your job to search for a job rather then wait until you are out the door and looking in. It all depends on your length of service. Or if you might want to wait until you are offered compensation package like early retirement.
 
I've been asked to train my replacement by an employer.. Several replacements, actually.. They were always on the lookout for someone cheaper even though I was already dirt-cheap for the amount of work being done. The potential replacements were smart enough to go looking for work elsewhere.. Eventually, I also got smart :cool:
 

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