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how many people wear back protectors?

john bickle said:
Forcefield makes several different jacket protectors that fit into an existing pocket in your jacket. If you do not have a pocket sometimes we can open up the linner and install one or make it so it is permanent inside the linner.
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Forcefield makes an EXCELLENT back protector for its thickness. It scored well for it's impact absorption in independent testing

http://www.forcefieldbodyarmour.com/product/pro-l2k-back-protector/2382

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female riders love strap ons and they should have front protectors as well.
 
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cycling said:
Forcefield Back Protector, all the time.
From J. Bickle, great guy to deal with.

http://www.bickleracing.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78&products_id=269
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One of the best back protectors you can buy. I have one and love it!
Gryphon said:
Your stopping distance @ 120 kph is nearly DOUBLED vs. 100 kph. (No it's not 120%, heheh)
Regards
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Where did you get this number from? Unless other factors have a pronounced effect (such as decreased linear coefficient of friction at higher speeds etc), applying the laws of motion results in a stopping distance that is 44% longer at 120 km/h vs 100 km/h
 
Always wear a back protector (Forcefield L2 not the back pad).
I think its more important in commuting than on the track. I do agree there is a point of diminishing returns with armour but riding in the city where your speeds at point of impact are very likely to be below 60 kph (given max braking effort or close) makes wearing my armour a no brainer for me. I'm now in the habit of always wearing full gear so its just part of my pre-ride routine....my opinion of course.
 
Gryphon said:
Hey Happy New Year everybody!
Re: ATGATT
Armored gear, while a relatively recent invention, is not a bad idea.
It's just that reality dictates the bigger picture not be forgotten (or overlooked).
All the armor in the world is not going to "save" you, if you get off at high speed.
Certain types of collisions are inherently non-surviveable.
Humans are extremely delicate and fragile, and designed for 1 (one) g.
In any serious collision, the greatest trauma is always your brain (which floats, remember) slamming against the inside of your skull.
Your brain and limbs, specifically hands & feet (extremities) can take heavy trauma if you come off your bike.
Your stopping distance @ 120 kph is nearly DOUBLED vs. 100 kph. (No it's not 120%, heheh)
200+ clicks is nutty - though I have done it pretty well every time I ride, for ~35 years and counting...
Selling safety equipment for decades now, I recognize that young riders get all armored up and they feel invincible!
While fitting them, I discuss riding safety - awareness, visibility, predictable hazards. Countersteering. They are not interested...
Not interested!
They want to know:
How do I take phone calls in my helmet?
How do I get my music in my helmet?
Do you guys sell coloured wheel stripes?
How do I lose these turn signals?
So (to review) yeah I guess a back protector is nice to have.
But only as one small component in a comprehensive self-defense or survival strategy.
And don't forget - just like a soldier's bullet-proof vest - you NEVER want to test it out, hopefully it works, heheh...
In the big picture, armor is a minor ingredient, and does not contribute to safe riding practices or collision-free motorcycling.
And in a pinch (maybe while you're changing songs or whatever) armor will not save your crumpled-up carcass, with torn off brain-stem.
Good helmet = open casket though (maybe).
Ride safely in the new year everyone! And try not to feel invincible.
I personally have ridden ~300,000+ km wearing only helmet/gloves/jeans.
Regards
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Very nice post
 
NealT said:
Always wear a back protector (Forcefield L2 not the back pad).
I think its more important in commuting than on the track.
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Except that you might expect to have an off at the track and your going alot faster than on the street. I wear one on the track but not on the street. Helmet, boots, gloves, jeans are my regular road attire.
 
dricked said:
Except that you might expect to have an off at the track and your going alot faster than on the street. I wear one on the track but not on the street. Helmet, boots, gloves, jeans are my regular road attire.
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Not to say that i approve of no back protector on the track but if we remove the issue of other bikes running you over I think a fair portion of the impact would be the initial impact of hitting the ground and bouncing multiple times but other than that there likely is a good distance of just sliding.

Of course we do have tracks that are older or badly designed where the barriers are close enough to have you hit those as well but there aren't such things as stopped cars, curbs, light standards, post boxes, benches etc. in your way as you slide or fly into once off your bike.
I feel I have too many other priorities that mandate I take every safety precaution I reasonably can when I ride and the passive ones are easy to add to my arsenal.
 
CruisnGrrl said:
i wear a back protector that straps on like a back pack
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Me too.

My brother used to live in a small town on the other side of Stratford and one of the kids in the neighbourhood went to the store on his trail bike to get some pop. He came back with some cans in his backpack and went off the road into a ditch. I guess he landed on his back and broke it. He's now in a wheelchair.
There have been posts on this board asking for recomendations for backpacks that can hold laptops etc. Not the best idea in my opinion. I am very careful about what I put in a backpack when i'm on a bike.
 
Gryphon said:
Hey Happy New Year everybody!
Re: ATGATT
Armored gear, while a relatively recent invention, is not a bad idea.
It's just that reality dictates the bigger picture not be forgotten (or overlooked).
All the armor in the world is not going to "save" you, if you get off at high speed.
Certain types of collisions are inherently non-surviveable.
Humans are extremely delicate and fragile, and designed for 1 (one) g.
In any serious collision, the greatest trauma is always your brain (which floats, remember) slamming against the inside of your skull.
Your brain and limbs, specifically hands & feet (extremities) can take heavy trauma if you come off your bike.
Your stopping distance @ 120 kph is nearly DOUBLED vs. 100 kph. (No it's not 120%, heheh)
200+ clicks is nutty - though I have done it pretty well every time I ride, for ~35 years and counting...
Selling safety equipment for decades now, I recognize that young riders get all armored up and they feel invincible!
While fitting them, I discuss riding safety - awareness, visibility, predictable hazards. Countersteering. They are not interested...
Not interested!
They want to know:
How do I take phone calls in my helmet?
How do I get my music in my helmet?
Do you guys sell coloured wheel stripes?
How do I lose these turn signals?
So (to review) yeah I guess a back protector is nice to have.
But only as one small component in a comprehensive self-defense or survival strategy.
And don't forget - just like a soldier's bullet-proof vest - you NEVER want to test it out, hopefully it works, heheh...
In the big picture, armor is a minor ingredient, and does not contribute to safe riding practices or collision-free motorcycling.
And in a pinch (maybe while you're changing songs or whatever) armor will not save your crumpled-up carcass, with torn off brain-stem.
Good helmet = open casket though (maybe).
Ride safely in the new year everyone! And try not to feel invincible.
I personally have ridden ~300,000+ km wearing only helmet/gloves/jeans.
Regards
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Indeed a great post, I will quote this post for my friends.
 
I didn't even realize you could buy a motorcycle suit or jacket that doesn't have a spot for a back protector. Every one I've ever seen or tried on has one.

That said, I also bought a much better Knox back protector in my first season. I have yet to actually wear it while on the bike. I think I only put it on maybe 3 times to test the fit.
 
NealT said:
Not to say that i approve of no back protector on the track but if we remove the issue of other bikes running you over I think a fair portion of the impact would be the initial impact of hitting the ground and bouncing multiple times but other than that there likely is a good distance of just sliding.

Of course we do have tracks that are older or badly designed where the barriers are close enough to have you hit those as well but there aren't such things as stopped cars, curbs, light standards, post boxes, benches etc. in your way as you slide or fly into once off your bike.
I feel I have too many other priorities that mandate I take every safety precaution I reasonably can when I ride and the passive ones are easy to add to my arsenal.
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Had three major crashes over 230 KPH on the track and two of them I needed NASA to gain re-entry permission. Landed two of them on my back and THANK GOD I had a back protector on! I could not even think of the impact or crap you could hit on the street,,just a curb even. A back protector will disperse the engery and spread it over a bigger area.It's not just a "back protector" it's an engery absorber more then anything. Regardless of where you crash the energy is the same. Everyone figures the high speed crashes are the worse,,,got hurt more under 50 KPh then I care to remember! Wish I had a back protector and armour sooner! Also,,I have been doing trackside stuff long enough to see the change,,, today riders survive bigger crashes and walk away more then ever before! Thanks Armour!
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlMbFlPzS24&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=SP467A2492C0B9CBFF
NealT said:
Not to say that i approve of no back protector on the track but if we remove the issue of other bikes running you over I think a fair portion of the impact would be the initial impact of hitting the ground and bouncing multiple times but other than that there likely is a good distance of just sliding.
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Not a lot of sliding here but a fair amount of air time. I'm thinking he's happy he was wearing a back protector.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6VxzvJqFD4&feature=related

Not a lot of speed here but similar result. Judging by his rapid "recovery", I'd say he was wearing prrrotection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlMbFlPzS24&feature=list_related&playnext=1&list=SP467A2492C0B9CBFF

;)
 
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BC1100S said:
Not a lot of sliding here but a fair amount of air time. I'm thinking he's happy he was wearing a back protector.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6VxzvJqFD4&feature=related
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Agree with both you and Mr. Bickle, nothing like first hand experience.
Either way, i'm not taking my armour off while on the bike and i'm also not going to just rely on armour to keep me safe. Others of course may differ and that's fine as well.
 
I use a Dainese 'Wave' back (and shoulder-blade) protector (the one in this photo). I ditched the foam back pad from my jackets...they're a joke compared to this thing! It has a honeycomb interior that will collapse and absorb shock...rather than my spine taking the brunt of things. Don't ride without it now.

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Nyx13 said:
I use a Dainese 'Wave' back (and shoulder-blade) protector (the one in this photo). I ditched the foam back pad from my jackets...they're a joke compared to this thing! It has a honeycomb interior that will collapse and absorb shock...rather than my spine taking the brunt of things. Don't ride without it now.

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^ +1
 
cycling said:
Forcefield Back Protector, all the time.
From J. Bickle, great guy to deal with.

http://www.bickleracing.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=78&products_id=269
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Bickle Racing has sponsored my boy for years now and I don't think there is anyone more qualified to discuss safety related issues in gear than John Bickle. He's been involved in Canadian and US racing forever as a racer, a series head, a coach and also has patched up the best Canadian racers for years, not to mention that he is the chair of the Canadian Rider Safety Fund- it's his passion. If you want to know about back protectors, how they work with your brand of leathers, or need direction on brands to get/ avoid, he's the fellow to talk to; he'll give you the non-pardesyn skinny on the gear as the guy to has to fix the crash damage. Personally, I'd check out Impact Armor, as far as I know, it is the only custom made back (and chest) protector on the market, its saved my boy more than once. http://www.impactarmor.com Bickle is the sole Canadian distributor
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