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timtune said:
I just don't think four words written by old white guys a few hundred years ago (which is no longer relevant since the British aren't coming) means you have to give a gun to every nutter who comes along.
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They knew the British had thrown their hands in the air and washed their hands of the ungrateful upstarts when they wrote the constitution. The 2nd was written so there would always be armed citizens to stand up to a US government swinging towards tyranny.
 
FullMotoJacket said:
ungrateful upstarts when they wrote the constitution. The 2nd was written so there would always be armed citizens to stand up to a US government swinging towards tyranny.
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Does anybody else find it ironic that the same portion of the US population who owns the most guns (*cough*, right side conservatives) are also those who politically lean towards leaders and actions from said leaders that push them closer to government tyranny?

The “don’t tread on me” crowd only want that mantra to apply to themselves - everybody else they don’t agree with, lives a lifestyle their magic sky man thinks is wrong, or get pregnant via a rape (or whatever else, etc etc etc), they want to forcefully squash it all or just outlaw it all via tyrannical government over-reach.
 
PrivatePilot said:
Does anybody else find it ironic that the same portion of the US population who owns the most guns (*cough*, right side conservatives) are also those who politically lean towards leaders and actions from said leaders that push them closer to government tyranny?
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You're talking about people whom (for the most part) if you asked them "Do you get the irony of that?" their response would be "My wife does the irony. Every Tuesday."
 
I was watching the news this am when they showed the final reading for Kiera’s law. She was the toddler thrown off rattlesnake point cliff by her dad who then jumped to his death , the result of a domestic violence problem . Tagged as dangerous , given rights by the courts .

Ban all cliffs , can’t jump off a cliff if we have no cliffs .


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crankcall said:
I was watching the news this am when they showed the final reading for Kiera’s law. She was the toddler thrown off rattlesnake point cliff by her dad who then jumped to his death , the result of a domestic violence problem . Tagged as dangerous , given rights by the courts .

Ban all cliffs , can’t jump off a cliff if we have no cliffs .


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The dad was a client. He seemed nice enough and I had no idea about all the issues. Apparently the facade of normalcy in the face of internal chaos was something he was great at. His employees were left in the wind. He was the only signing authority for their license and all accounts. Operations effectively ceased that day. His parents had to do what they could to unwind things.
 
Sorry that was so close to home , I lived in the area at the time , my friends were on the firefighter team that had to remove the bodies . Mental health is so much bigger than most of us imagine . And hiding it .
My uncle kidnapped his 4 kids during a domestic dispute , it ended ok after 3 days . But mental health hit home that week.


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crankcall said:
Sorry that was so close to home , I lived in the area at the time , my friends were on the firefighter team that had to remove the bodies . Mental health is so much bigger than most of us imagine . And hiding it .
My uncle kidnapped his 4 kids during a domestic dispute , it ended ok after 3 days . But mental health hit home that week.


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Stress anyone? Frustration? Expectations?

I got married at 25 with my wife a few years younger. At today's wage scales our combined take home monthly income would be about $7500.

Today, if a similar couple lived in a rented room, no car, no toys, no outings they could save maybe $5000 a month, $60 K per year towards a million dollar home. Five years later as kids come into the picture and the house is needed to get off the rent treadmill it's a $700 K mortgage plus all the expensive kiddie stuff. The budget doesn't take care of itself.

We have a lot more social freedoms today. A person doesn't have to be white, straight and compliant. Financially it is the opposite. Things are more complicated to buy and service. Contract jobs etc. Nothing seems secure anymore.

Advice from grandpa and how they did it 60 years ago isn't nearly as relevant.
 
nobbie48 said:
Stress anyone? Frustration? Expectations?

I got married at 25 with my wife a few years younger. At today's wage scales our combined take home monthly income would be about $7500.

Today, if a similar couple lived in a rented room, no car, no toys, no outings they could save maybe $5000 a month, $60 K per year towards a million dollar home. Five years later as kids come into the picture and the house is needed to get off the rent treadmill it's a $700 K mortgage plus all the expensive kiddie stuff. The budget doesn't take care of itself.

We have a lot more social freedoms today. A person doesn't have to be white, straight and compliant. Financially it is the opposite. Things are more complicated to buy and service. Contract jobs etc. Nothing seems secure anymore.

Advice from grandpa and how they did it 60 years ago isn't nearly as relevant.
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Too true.

Add to it, the age-old advice about getting any university degree to get a job is now a one way ticket to long-term debt.

Post-secondary education in the trades will get you out in the job market quicker and get your wages higher than the guy with a general BA in Psychology or worse, Fine Arts...

The only Uni degree worth the paper it's printed on is one in STEM.
 
Lightcycle said:
The only Uni degree worth the paper it's printed on is one in STEM.
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I'd say a law degree would be on that list. Especially if you hyper focus and have a bit of a mean streak.
 
Lightcycle said:
The only Uni degree worth the paper it's printed on is one in STEM.
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I don't agree with that. My opinion is that you must complete a program that is hard (if you choose post-secondary education). Employers recognize and respect that. That is often STEM but some business programs qualify and probably some arts programs (but they are a harder sell as employers are less likely to recognize and value those exceptional programs). An easy degree is a giant waste of money for most.
 
A degree for the sake of just having a degree is a mistake. A degree that leads (and is a barrier to entry) to get into a well paying career pays off, does not need to be STEM.

Many undergrad STEM degrees don't meet that second sentence above. A bachelor degree in physics as one example, it is not a ticket to wealth or employment without a post grad... Of course with the physics degree one should be able to calculate the trajectory of the bullet that killed the biker... to stay on topic.

The days where having any degree showed you were smart and got you a job are long done, even many hard to get/do degrees...
 
backmarkerducati said:
A degree for the sake of just having a degree is a mistake. A degree that leads (and is a barrier to entry) to get into a well paying career pays off, does not need to be STEM.

Many undergrad STEM degrees don't meet that second sentence above. A bachelor degree in physics as one example, it is not a ticket to wealth or employment without a post grad... Of course with the physics degree one should be able to calculate the trajectory of the bullet that killed the biker... to stay on topic.

The days where having any degree showed you were smart and got you a job are long done, even many hard to get/do degrees...
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As an employer I would see a three or four year piece of paper as an indication of being able to stick it out. Training a person for a year and a bit then they leave, find it boring, gets stale for the employer.

Paying someone to teach them what they don't like isn't profitable.
 
nobbie48 said:
As an employer I would see a three or four year piece of paper as an indication of being able to stick it out. Training a person for a year and a bit then they leave, find it boring, gets stale for the employer.

Paying someone to teach them what they don't like isn't profitable.
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Someone that stuck out four years of weekly 30+ hours of class and substantial homework interests me. Someone that did four years of 15 hours of class and drinking without burning out tells me little about that person (other than they are ok wasting their life).
 
Back on target :), we are seeing shootings and vehicular homicides as well. At a sentencing hearing, stuff comes out:

Rexdale, June 19, 2021 a guy goes to his son's first birthday party carrying a loaded pistol. Someone says something and he starts shooting. Someone shoots back. Four people are injured and a five year old girl, shot in the head will have hearing problems for the rest of her life. A mid teen will limp for the rest of his life.

Another one of the victims was his own one year old son.

At the time of the shooting he was out on bail ($2,000) for a loaded handgun offense. Three defense witnesses have been charged with perjury, including his mother.

Defense is asking for leniency and is twisting the optics of the situation. True, prior to the shooting, the perpetrator didn't have a criminal record, downplaying the fact that he had been charged under the firearms act. A charge that, after the shooting, resulted in a conviction. I doubt the police gave him back his gun so did he learn anything?

How do you fix stupid?
 
nobbie48 said:
Back on target :), we are seeing shootings and vehicular homicides as well. At a sentencing hearing, stuff comes out:

Rexdale, June 19, 2021 a guy goes to his son's first birthday party carrying a loaded pistol. Someone says something and he starts shooting. Someone shoots back. Four people are injured and a five year old girl, shot in the head will have hearing problems for the rest of her life. A mid teen will limp for the rest of his life.

Another one of the victims was his own one year old son.

At the time of the shooting he was out on bail ($2,000) for a loaded handgun offense. Three defense witnesses have been charged with perjury, including his mother.

Defense is asking for leniency and is twisting the optics of the situation. True, prior to the shooting, the perpetrator didn't have a criminal record, downplaying the fact that he had been charged under the firearms act. A charge that, after the shooting, resulted in a conviction. I doubt the police gave him back his gun so did he learn anything?

How do you fix stupid?
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Should we have the shooting equivalent of tracks? Rent out a remote paintball field and battle it out with real guns. Gang A and Gang B compete for territory. Get the war over with in an afternoon instead of drawing it out over years.
 
If we had a stupid registry, we'd all be on it sooner or later..
 
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