I've noticed that about the Suzuki's. I've heard some complain about reliability of the RMZ four strokes, but no first hand experience. Perhaps they're just not available in great enough numbers to be common?
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Hilariously bad suzuki marketing
- Thread starter bigpoppa
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Out here in the sticks, we have one of each dealership, so each brand is represented evenly.
Still, the orange mafia prevails on the trails. Yammie is well represented and Honda bikes I feel like it's more cult-based than merit-based - more of "I ride a Honda" attitude, as opposed to "I ride a CRF".
Suzuki can be bought and serviced just like the rest of the brands, but either due to poor marketing or poor performance - no one is riding them. Never ridden one and I don't know anyone who rides one, so can't say whether they're any good or not.
Imagining it doesn't make it so.
Dirt bike seem to be about 75% KTM products 20% Yamaha and 5% Honda
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I assume those were big dual sports not dirtbikes did you do the single track.
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matt365
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I'd say so. Corduroy last weekend.
Imo, a 450 is overkill for single track.
300 2 stroke is amazing.
250 4 stroke is plenty.
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Awesome pic Matt and that must have been amazing.I'd say so. Corduroy last weekend.
Imo, a 450 is overkill for single track.
300 2 stroke is amazing.
250 4 stroke is plenty.
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Mikedezo44
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Suzuki has slashed their R&D budget big time over the years to almost zero on dirt bikes. 2023 rmz450 motocross bike is essentially the same as their 2018 model. Gets dragged down in all of the magazine shootouts because it's the only one left that hasn't adopted electric start. When a guy crashes in motocross or supercross on any other brand they hit the button and their bike starts up. It has been a joke now for 6 years in motocross world when a guy on Suzuki crashes the photographers like taking pics of them trying to kick start when engine is hot. Hard to do when your heart rate is close to 200 and need to get it into neutral on the side of the hill) So their race is essentially over. It is still a great (and very reliable) bike for %99 of riders that can't push it to it's limits but for some reason it has a stain on reputation.
So good that it won a supercross race at the elite level last winter by Ken Roczen (on a non "factory" team) in very dramatic fashion with a GasGas right on his tail for the last few laps. Beating all of the multi million dollar budget factory teams. Yes he held up a kickstarter lever on the podium it was great.
Suzuki is such a massive company with marine engines, scooters, cars in Asia, etc that their motocross bike sales might make up for % .1 of their profits. Not to mention pulling out of Motogp, their sights are elsewhere.
So good that it won a supercross race at the elite level last winter by Ken Roczen (on a non "factory" team) in very dramatic fashion with a GasGas right on his tail for the last few laps. Beating all of the multi million dollar budget factory teams. Yes he held up a kickstarter lever on the podium it was great.
Suzuki is such a massive company with marine engines, scooters, cars in Asia, etc that their motocross bike sales might make up for % .1 of their profits. Not to mention pulling out of Motogp, their sights are elsewhere.
That is exactly what I am seeing on the trails. Not blue-plated dual sport, but green-plated OHV.
One DR350 the rest dirtbikes. Very little single track. Double track and hydro cuts.
A Yammy or two in my circle but the other dozen or so bikes are all Austrian. Couple Beta's as well. I had a YZ450F, great at the track, sucks in the woods no matter how much you try to mod it. One ride on a Austrian 300 2T and I bought one and sold the YZ.
As for the new Katana that's a nice looking bike with of course a great engine. Shame the fuel range limits it so much which may just be what's killing sales on it.
As for the new Katana that's a nice looking bike with of course a great engine. Shame the fuel range limits it so much which may just be what's killing sales on it.
Relax
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I rode a GSXS-1000F and would say that's true (to me). Nothing at all wrong with it, very smooth, but nothing to make me feel like I was riding something "special" and nothing to make me grin under my helmet.
TK4
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When it gets to that level about the only thing left on those bikes that's original is the tank emblems.
TK4
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Exactly.Like this "Camry"
Yep ... used to have 2019 GSX-1000S naked. Wouldn't buy another.
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