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Umm, he has every right to. Things change when you have a kid. Parents that allow their kids to run wild and free are trash.
Kri$han said:
your dad is in absolutely no position to tell you not to get a bike, if he used to race them.
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im in the exact same position as you, so im just going to wait it out until im a little older and living on my own, this way insurance will be alot more affordable too. I suggest you wait out as well.
 
Kri$han said:
LMAO @ giving advice to someone about changing their parent's minds, from a guy who's dad used to race motorcycles... your dad is in absolutely no position to tell you not to get a bike, if he used to race them!

To the OP: just wait it out, man. It's worth it.
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Yes, he is. I still remember the day he came home after going down at the track with his face covered in blood (this was in the late 60's when track wear for amateurs was not the same as today). He also quit the track after that as I think the consequences of his death would not have been good for the family.
You may not have a family yet, but that responsibility trumps anything bike related. If you choose to ride and have a family then you also do everything you can to reduce the risk while riding but also if you pass unexpectedly, and yes it's not cheap on both fronts.
 
I remember a time (long ago) when my father and I did not see eye to eye on the subject of something I wanted that he felt was idiotic. He was pretty old fashioned and used the line "not under my roof", my reply was packing my bags and leaving. It was 8 years before I saw him again in a civil manner. I had a terrible situation happen to me and no other place to turn. My dad open his home and his arms again to greet me and all our past troubles were forgotten. My dad passed away recently, I would do anything to have those 8 wasted years back. Long story short don't risk family over anything material, bikes/cars/girls come and go but you only ever get one dad. If you do things correctly and take you time, I am sure he will come around.
 
Best thing to do is move out on your own and have your own roof above your head, then you can get whatever the hell you want! I'd save up to move out and then you can get as many bikes as you want :)
 
RicoChet said:
Best thing to do is move out on your own and have your own roof above your head, then you can get whatever the hell you want! I'd save up to move out and then you can get as many bikes as you want :)
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See the post above yours. Family is much more important than "toys" and arguing over toys. Maybe when you're younger and "rebellious", it all makes sense, but when you get older, you actually start to figure out what's more important in your life - your family or your toys.
 
Okay so I haven't been on for a very long time. I have been trying to get my father to see eye to eye with me, but the strangest thing happened a few weeks ago. My mother came into my room and said she understood how much getting a bike meant to me and that she knew I would be responsible if I got one. She said she would try to to get my father to understand the reason I wanted to get a bike. she suggested I take him out on the dirtbikes to let him see what if it was like. My question today is if I had a choice between two bikes which one would you recommend? A Kawasaki 2003 ZZR-250 or a 2008 CBR 125. Someone told me that the insurance would be the same on either bike, but I am just wondering which one you personally would choose?
Thanks for all your help.
 
Don't go with 'someone told me'. Call the insurance companies and find out for yourself. 125 and 250 are both great beginner bikes. My vote would go for 250, as most people on these forums are trying to sell their 125s half way through their first season. The only thing is that those bikes are carbureted, but since you've been riding dirt bikes hopefully you already know how to clean and adjust those things.

And of course, great idea about going dirtbiking with your dad if he is up to it!
 
Maybe someone would be selling a CBR250 with ABS, then you could convince your dad it is safer? ;)
 
save up around a thousand dollars and take your dad with you to one to these "closed course" rider training courses. Both have rental bikes and I think both have rental gear.

Do it with your dad as a bonding experience (learning something together) and he will see how serious you are and how your hearts set on riding. He'll also see what all the fuss is about too. Plus he will be happy to spend a day with you. Your treat.



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