psiborg
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Yup it's an 08... Thought it was 09.
help! 2009 BMW F800S repairs..
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Yup it's an 08... Thought it was 09.
psiborg
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Re: help! 2008 BMW F800S repairs..
Some great advice in this thread and thanks for helping me see some options. I'm still putting together numbers before asking my bud how he wants to proceed.. For all the lessons on morality here, if he wants dealer to fix it, that's of course what I'll do, but I think there's some better moves.. It'll be up to him.. Also, I did tell him I dropped the bike the same day.
I'll let you guys know how this works out.
Some great advice in this thread and thanks for helping me see some options. I'm still putting together numbers before asking my bud how he wants to proceed.. For all the lessons on morality here, if he wants dealer to fix it, that's of course what I'll do, but I think there's some better moves.. It'll be up to him.. Also, I did tell him I dropped the bike the same day.
I'll let you guys know how this works out.
if I was you, I'd just keep it/buy it off the guy. so it has a few scuffs, and the other items are easily replaced with aftermarket.
Its a really fun bike to toss in the corners. great low end power. My only gripe was the lack of overall power. Needed another 20hp and it would have been perfect.
Jeezuz!More self entitlement.Shouldn't be any thinking about this.Fix it for him and don't give him a chance to say "well,it's old now and you didn't mean it".That's kinda what i said to a family member who wrecked my new truck,thinking they would have the respect to get it fixed.They didn't and will never get any more help from me.
Nice guys finish last.And retain their nice guy status.The others are pathetic
Nice guys finish last.And retain their nice guy status.The others are pathetic
pfbmgd
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This is one of the reasons I don't borrow bikes or lend mine out . the bike someone mentioned is worth 4-6k . Offer your friend 2-3k cash what ever you feel is fair . How him where he can get the failings fixed. There no point fixing a 8 year old bike to look like new . Most people looking at a 8 year old bike will expect a small scratch or two .
I'm outta this thread before my head explodes.What a bunch of crap.
blackcamaro
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So you would want a friend of yours to spend pretty much what the bike is worth on 2 fairings and a few small hard parts? That's nice.
Oh my weary internet friend why you always trying to trick me? Hasn't the rental company already acknowledged it's responsibility by having "in the event of" strategies in place? That is there duty, they recognize it and hence, you don't drive away without a walk around inspection and signing documents. Now there is an agreement in place.
OTOH, you could lend your brand new truck to the hard working devil may care family tree and yell at clouds til your head explodes.
I'm with you. Nobody seems to want to man up anymore and good manners and common decency have come down to self entitled whining and I'm pretty sure I'm detecting a bit of "well it's partly your fault for lending it to me".
If YOU crash your friend's bike then the decision on the course of action is THEIRS, not yours. If the course of action that they decide to take does not make sense to YOU, that's irrelevant. It's THEIR bike, so THEY get to make the call.
Agreed Brian. However, it's nice of the person that dumped the bike to do some homework and get some information to pass along. Not in the, it can cost less point of view but, I found out you can get it painted here, parts there, or go to who ever you want to make it right etc. It's the makings of remorse and attempting to take responsibility, instead of here is your wrecked bike, go get it fixed and send me the bill.
It can be a pain to go through the hassle of getting it repaired and maybe it would be appreciated if some of the footwork was done by the person that caused it?
That's what it sounds like. Imho, this whole situation revolves around the quality/type of "friendship". Technically I believe you're on the hook to make it right per bike owner. Technically. Now take into account ALL the variables pertinent to that friendship and a different picture will emerge. Asking strangers on a forum regarding damage to a borrowed bike....well duh. Let me consult the rule book.
Re: help! 2008 BMW F800S repairs..
You have a decent attitude.
Outside of the turn signal, a minor expense, the bike is usable and not a rat bike IMO. What does your friend's biking future include?
The math of spending $4G on an older ride-able bike doesn't make business sense but if the bike is a possession that helps your friend define himself you do what he wants. If it's a stepping stone he might be happier with the cash and a slightly scuffed trade or you buy his bike at the pre crash value and sort it out as your problem. Many good suggestions above.
How badly does losing $4G hurt you?
If it was my bike I wouldn't want a friend to get hosed so we'd work out something fair.
A friend offered to let me ride his prisine bike when I was getting back into riding and fortunately I declined. He is anal about his stuff and I wouldn't have felt right unless his bike was returned "Showroom".
Stop the rental car comparison. That is a legal contract without friendships or morality.
In a legal rental situation you would either buy the extra insurance or not. If you buy it you return the bike, hand them the keys and say "Sorry, bye bye".
If you didn't buy the insurance you pay them $4G and they do a $1G patch up, put $3G in the money drawer and rent the bike out again.
The next renter does the same thing an another $3G goes in the drawer.
Repeat, repeat.....
You have a decent attitude.
Outside of the turn signal, a minor expense, the bike is usable and not a rat bike IMO. What does your friend's biking future include?
The math of spending $4G on an older ride-able bike doesn't make business sense but if the bike is a possession that helps your friend define himself you do what he wants. If it's a stepping stone he might be happier with the cash and a slightly scuffed trade or you buy his bike at the pre crash value and sort it out as your problem. Many good suggestions above.
How badly does losing $4G hurt you?
If it was my bike I wouldn't want a friend to get hosed so we'd work out something fair.
A friend offered to let me ride his prisine bike when I was getting back into riding and fortunately I declined. He is anal about his stuff and I wouldn't have felt right unless his bike was returned "Showroom".
Stop the rental car comparison. That is a legal contract without friendships or morality.
In a legal rental situation you would either buy the extra insurance or not. If you buy it you return the bike, hand them the keys and say "Sorry, bye bye".
If you didn't buy the insurance you pay them $4G and they do a $1G patch up, put $3G in the money drawer and rent the bike out again.
The next renter does the same thing an another $3G goes in the drawer.
Repeat, repeat.....
blackcamaro
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No kidding. No where did I say I wouldn't fix my friends bike how they see fit. Both my posts have been from the perspective of a bike owner getting his bike damaged by a friend. I would not need brand new parts bought and installed by the dealer on a 8 or 9 year old bike...that's just a huge waste of money. Things happen and motorcycles tend to hit the ground sometimes, good used oem parts or quality aftermarket would (oem fairings new or used, no aftermarket fairings) be good for ME. I'd even install them myself if buddy who dropped the bike bought it all.
If a friend decides to do a burnout bouncing off the rev limiter then he can step up for a new motor if it blows. Big difference between someone abusing my stuff and just bad things happening. If it's an accident that just happened big deal I'm good with it coming back to me 90-95% as good as it was before. If I'm not good with that then I'm not lending my stuff out.
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blackcamaro
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Wouldn't that be delightful if the BMW in question was a boxer? I think so.
Not to mention the variables available in the friends bank account. Think twice before lending is all I'm saying. I've let a few of my close friends ride the Aprilia, but I have full coverage for a reason. If something happens and there's a couple thousand damage, yeah I'm positive not a one of them would have issue paying up, and so would I if the roles were reversed. But if something happens and the bike is a total loss, is it really fair to expect your friend to pay 10k? Will your friendship survive that? I'm personally not going to put someone through that hardship "cuz my stuffs got broke"... That there is also entitlement... just sayin'
