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S1000RR said:
Do you mean that using the waterproof housing you reduce the windnoise? Or is the skeleton house/waterproof housing not the same?
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The GoPro comes with two housings, the waterproof one and a regular housing with vents.

The waterproof housing is used when you want a tight seal so no water can get in, while the regular housing is used for everyday stuff.


The waterproof housing does reduce wind noise but it also reduces regular/wanted speech. I personally use the waterproof housing all the time since i dont really care about audio, dont want dust and other foreign stuff to get into the housing.
 
It comes with ONE housing and TWO back covers. One back cover has no holes to make the HOUSING waterproof, while the other back cover has two BIG holes to improve audio.

If you need to access the ports without taking the camera out (ie. Use it while charging), then you need the skeleton case (housing).

When I was wondering about all this I used a search engine called Google. The address is www.google.ca. Give it a go. You'll be amazed at what you can learn.

Sorry to be such a smartas*, but come on man.
 
imnothng said:
It comes with ONE housing and TWO back covers. One back cover has no holes to make the HOUSING waterproof, while the other back cover has two BIG holes to improve audio.

If you need to access the ports without taking the camera out (ie. Use it while charging), then you need the skeleton case (housing).

When I was wondering about all this I used a search engine called Google. The address is www.google.ca. Give it a go. You'll be amazed at what you can learn.

Sorry to be such a smartas*, but come on man.
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We are all proud of you and your search engine skills. Thanks to you and Sushii, I know know more about my GoPro.
 
I've been told that the go pro mounts are almost permanent. Therefore if you decide to remove the mount, it can damage whatever you peel it off of? This true?
 
veno78 said:
I've been told that the go pro mounts are almost permanent. Therefore if you decide to remove the mount, it can damage whatever you peel it off of? This true?
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You can safely remove the mounts without messing up the adhesive if you're careful. If you do mess it up however, just get some 3M double sided sticky tape and reapply it to the mount.
 
I came across this video on youtube:
[video=youtube;Q1dbNApE9ik]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1dbNApE9ik&feature=player_embedded[/video]

This is using a video from a camera with GPS encoded on there. Dashware takes that GPS coordinates tied to the video and can overlay (various different overlays) onto the video (track location, etc). The starlane laptimer also has GPS coordinates tied to its data - mainly throttle/rpm (and some people do brake as well) - but that can also be tied into the dashware for the video. This particular video only shows throttle as a bar graph, but starlane records the actual throttle (throttle sense wire in the bike) at that particular GPS point.

This is why GPS is a very cool feature.... I would love to find a tutorial how you manage to have this result....
 
I've owned the ContourHD1080, original GoPro HD Hero, and now the HD Hero2.

Some points between the three:

  • Audio quality, worst to best: ContourHD, HD1, HD2. Explanation: ContourHD's mic is good if not moving/at very low speed, but picks up nothing but wind noise once you're on the move. Some have remedied this with "socks" or other methods. The HD Heroes' cases help this issue, but can still pick up a bit too much wind noise at higher speeds, and sometimes exterior audio such as other people talking can be a bit muffled. Love the external mic option on the HD2 though, excellent for vlogging.
  • Video quality: Mixed bag. All three cameras perform very well in daylight, but all three cameras suffer in low light. In my own experience, I found the HD Hero1 *sucked* in poor lighting, where the ContourHD was marginally better and the Hero2 actually manages to keep a fair amount of detail visible. The Hero2 definitely has the most "true" colour definition vs the others, and I find video smoother vs the Contour.
  • Battery life: This depends heavily on your video quality/fps settings, but they all seem to average out about the same. I've generally run my GoPro's at 720p/30fps, UltraWide on the Hero2, and can typically get around 2.5hrs of recording time at that setting. At 1080p, it's closer to 1.5hrs and obviously uses up more memory card space. The ContourHD would typically get around 1.5hrs but I ran it at 1080p/30fps, as I somehow didn't like its fisheye/barrel effect at 720p. As noted above, the GoPro can be plugged in/charging while recording -- as far as I'm aware, the Contour cannot, but I could be wrong.
  • Memory Cards: The GoPro cameras take standard-sized, SD/SDHC cards, "officially" up to 32GB. Often cheaper than the MicroSDHC cards, which the Contour series take. I've also had many MicroSD cards go corrupt on me vs standard SD cards, but this can also be attributed to different brands. For either, I'd recommend Class 6 or 10 cards to avoid dealing with buffering/slow transfer times.
  • Mounting/Point of View: The ContourHD has a notable advantage here. Its lens can be rotated, and has a pair of lasers which will assist in lining up your POV. With the GoPro's you have several plastic clips that go together, and have to adjust and hope it's lined up right. I've had several GoPro videos end up being shot with an awkward tilt because I didn't realize the camera was slightly angled to one side, etc. However, the GoPro does have an LCD screen add-on which could help with this -- if only it wouldn't drain the battery so horribly, especially when you forget to shut it off like I did when I used mine.

As mentioned prior to my post, this topic has been brought up many times here/on other forums, but especially given the fact many old posts have been wiped from existence, I hope this is of some use.
 
Jamie, I'd suggest some way of "dampening" the vibration that may occur with the camera mounted on the bike. Though I haven't tried it on the tank yet (have the suction cup mount but haven't tried it) I did have it mounted to my handlebars via tripod mount before, and the vibration made the video too shaky for my liking. You'll also get a lot of "clicking" sound from the camera bouncing around inside the case, what little it is able to anyway. Haven't tried it yet, but some thin foam padding inside the case may alleviate this -- not sure how it'd affect audio though.
 
Would be interested in people's experience with various memory cards. Looks like my Hero2 only like Sandisk SDHC so far. I tried Duracell 32GB and Patriot 8GB cards, both brand new and both work fine in my camera, but not in Hero2. Both of my Sandisk Ultra 16GB and 32GB work fine in Hero2. I guess, I'll stick with what I know is the best - Sandisk and Lexar.
 
I would say right now is the perfect time to wait to buy a camera for this purpose. Right now, Sony is coming out with their version, I believe JVC is releasing or has just released theirs, and Contour has an updated version coming out, so the marketspace is growing for these things and there's going to likely be pricing pressure due to the growth in competition. I could see GoPro doing something to refresh the Hero line within the next 6 months.
 
im liking the Sony Action Sports camera with wifi option. It is very new to the market though.. it just might be something i get over the winter though.

it will be between the sony or the replayHD for me
 
S1000RR said:
I came across this video on youtube:
[video=youtube;Q1dbNApE9ik]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1dbNApE9ik&feature=player_embedded[/vide/o]

This is using a video from a camera with GPS encoded on there. Dashware takes that GPS coordinates tied to the video and can overlay (various different overlays) onto the video (track location, etc). The starlane laptimer also has GPS coordinates tied to its data - mainly throttle/rpm (and some people do brake as well) - but that can also be tied into the dashware for the video. This particular video only shows throttle as a bar graph, but starlane records the actual throttle (throttle sense wire in the bike) at that particular GPS point.

This is why GPS is a very cool feature.... I would love to find a tutorial how you manage to have this result....
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That is very cool. If you find out how this was done, let me know.

This was with a GoPro HD mounted to the tank with a suction cup mount. So yes, a little shaky but I don't really care too much, TBH. I mostly recorded these for myself just to analyze my riding.

[video=youtube;VXIQrQqpUbs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXIQrQqpUbs[/video]
 
toysareforboys said:
Oh baby! Got myself a GoPro "Hero" (not the 2) for my track day Sept 20th!!!

Going to run it with this tank mount: https://www.kapscomoto.com/SearchRe...rch=Y&Search=tank+mount&Submit.x=0&Submit.y=0

With this GoPro attachment: http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/go-pro-gopro-tripod-mount-tripod-mount/10158510.aspx

Should make for some good video. I wonder if they will let me run with my speedo untaped, in the spirit of videography :)

-Jamie M.
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Wouldn't that get in your way when you tuck?
 
Mina said:
Wouldn't that get in your way when you tuck?
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The straight speeds aren't too fast at TMP, I could skip fully tucking :)

I gave it a try, works pretty good. It does vibrate/shake a little more than I'd like, but it beats anything I've used so far :) I know the audio sucks donkey balls on the GoPro, and it appears the original Hero has no external mic input, so I wasn't able to try it out using one of my professional microphones :(

The thing that ticks me off the most is the video quality. I set it to "2" which is 720p30 for extended video record times. If you look at my tach, especially the 13, you can see it's scaling the video, and doing a poor job of it :( I guess I'll have to shoot in 1080 if I want it to look half descent :(

To watch it in HD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6NT4CwrF5c&hd=1

[video=youtube;H6NT4CwrF5c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6NT4CwrF5c[/video]

-Jamie M.
 
Roasted said:
That is very cool. If you find out how this was done, let me know.

This was with a GoPro HD mounted to the tank with a suction cup mount. So yes, a little shaky but I don't really care too much, TBH. I mostly recorded these for myself just to analyze my riding.

[video=youtube;VXIQrQqpUbs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXIQrQqpUbs[/video]
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It was done with a contour+ cam with GPS using this dashware software. You can choose all kinds of data overlay designs. If you want to display throttle and brake info as well on your screen, you'll need to have an extra datacable connected to your bike (or install a device such as the Starlane Athon on your bike)

I gathered this info so far... I never connected it myself but I ordered a contour+ 2 when I receive it I will connect it to my S1000RR, I will keep you posted...
 
I haven't owned a GoPro, because I simply didn't like the form factor. I've seen enough on them in use on the road and track. I have owned both the Contour XD1080 and currently own two Replay XD1080 cameras. I quite liked the Contour, especially the dual LASER system for setting level and target. I definitely miss that. Audio is better on the Replay than it was with the Contour XD1080, but claims are that audio was one of the issues addressed with the newer Contour cameras. For my purposes audio is meaningless. Of the two camera manufacturers I would say that the Replay units feel far more substantial, being contained in billet aluminum bodies. Drawback with the Replay is integrated battery, meaning that you can't just swap it out when it runs dry. They do provide an optional cigarette lighter power adapter, though, so permanent power is possible. That's how I run them in my car.
 
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