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Wingboy, the sad reality is that one becomes a number in a que even with life altering health care issues. Part 2 is that the injury affects the activities and enjoyment of life of the entire family.
 
FullMotoJacket said:
Walking in to the clinic for my tri-yearly cortisone shots in a jacket + boots and carrying a helmet probably doesn't help my case.
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Assuming you're not joking, in all seriousness, no, it probably did not.

I just had a cortisone shot 7 weeks ago in the L shoulder and so far it's holding well with just Nsaids and Tylenol for breakthrough and sleeping. Right shoulder cortisone only lasted 4 weeks before the pain was bad again. Considering the most you will generally receive in a joint (inside a year, anyways) is 3 shots before it presents potential complications (or just starts to lose effectiveness) I'm hoping if I am indeed headed to surgery again for this other shoulder I can push it off again. I'm not expecting much of a fight from the surgeon given the reality that most people want their surgery yesterday.
 
MLadin said:
Have you guys in pain never heard of MSM? Cheap as dirt. 1000 mg capsules. 2 / day. Watch all your pains disappear in a week.
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A cursory glance is interesting, but I'll have to read some more.

The physical issues that many of us deal with are not just "aches and pains". They're very real medical issues like torn tendons, burst or bulging discs, pinched nerves/neuropathy, etc. There's no medication on the face of the planet that are going to somehow magically "fix" these sorts of things, they can just mask the pain or reduce the inflammation causing it. For many of the more serious problems surgery to actually fix the underling issues is the only real solution.

When you’re masking things with a pill, vis whatever method of action it takes, as soon as you stop taking the masking or reducing aids, it's GOING to return, there's no way around that reality.
 
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Katatonic said:
Sounds more like a sales pitch than an endorsement....


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If it was a sales pitch I wouldn't recommend any brand...buy any brand. It's methylated sulphur. They use it in race horses to speed healing. Works great in all animals...including humans. Give it to your arthritic dog. Read the book The Miracke of MSM.


One caveat is if you're allergic to sulpha or sulphur medications or foods, stay away...but that's rare.

I've been on the forum a long time. I don't sell anything.

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PrivatePilot said:
A cursory glance is interesting, but I'll have to read some more.

The physical issues that many of us deal with are not just "aches and pains". They're very real medical issues like torn tendons, burst or bulging discs, pinched nerves/neuropathy, etc. There's no medication on the face of the planet that are going to somehow magically "fix" these sorts of things, they can just mask the pain or reduce the inflammation causing it. For many of the more serious problems surgery to actually fix the underling issues is the only real solution.

When you’re masking things with a pill, vis whatever method of action it takes, as soon as you stop taking the masking or reducing aids, it's GOING to return, there's no way around that reality.
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Agree Private Pilot, but MSM speeds healing. All disease is inflammation. All injury pain is inflammation. Remove the inflammation, you remove pain and promote the body to heal itself...which it can do.

If you are on pain medication as well, look into DLPA. A cheap amino acid that works the same as an opiiod minus any addiction potential.

Again, buy any brand. Take on an empty stomach with something sweet.

Source Naturals, DLPA, 750 mg, 60 Tablets

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I started using Glucosamine and Chondroitin about 2 weeks ago and to be honest, I haven't had any shoulder/neck pain since...haven't changed anything else so it must be working...
 
ifiddles said:
I started using Glucosamine and Chondroitin about 2 weeks ago and to be honest, I haven't had any shoulder/neck pain since...haven't changed anything else so it must be working...
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I started lifting for my traps+shoulders, really helps too
 
ifiddles said:
I started using Glucosamine and Chondroitin about 2 weeks ago and to be honest, I haven't had any shoulder/neck pain since...haven't changed anything else so it must be working...
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I used to work in this area. Nearly all glucosamine you take is metabolized and is peed out very shortly afterwards and none ends up in your cartilage (which is how it’s supposed to work). We know this as we can label it with radioisotopes and track where the isotopes end up. It has a very, very small (slightly above placebo) effect on pain in some studies. Good news is it’s not very toxic at all. It’s a multi-million dollar market for the stuff unsurprisingly. The same goes for MSM and chondroitin. One thing that does work is hyaluronic acid injections but that’s as a mechanical lubricant.
 
you guys also understand that hundreds of people also get better and live a bettrer quality of life as a result of the care they recieve in the health care system.
Nobody likes a happy story, good stories dont sell newspapers
 
Wingboy said:
My wife had a brain injury from a fall at home in Oct 2017. The health system has been a revolving door for 2 years. She went to the geriatric assessment center 5 weeks ago. So far they have found that she has symptoms of Parkinson's. When she was admitted she was using a walker. They took the walker away and put her in a wheelchair when not doing physio because she is a high risk to fall. And because they are so understaffed, guess what.... She fell.
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Best wishes for a fast and full recovery. Can't be easy as a husband looking on and feeling helpless in most of it.

Sadly the staffing at most places is inadequate and often the frustration gets taken out on the point of contact people who are just as upset about the understaffing, and also now overworked and even more exhausted because of it.
 
Hardwrkr13 said:
Best wishes for a fast and full recovery. Can't be easy as a husband looking on and feeling helpless in most of it.

Sadly the staffing at most places is inadequate and often the frustration gets taken out on the point of contact people who are just as upset about the understaffing, and also now overworked and even more exhausted because of it.
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Thanks. I'm helpful sometimes. When they were prepping her for sutures the Dr needed a razor to shaved her head and they couldn't find one. Just happened to have a new "lady bic"in my pocket.Tada
 
MLadin said:
Agree Private Pilot, but MSM speeds healing. All disease is inflammation. All injury pain is inflammation. Remove the inflammation, you remove pain and promote the body to heal itself...which it can do.
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When it's a physical issue that cannot be "healed", all medications do is mask the pain.

My shoulder issues are a result of a torn supraspinatus tendon. The tendon is physically torn. When that happens in a shoulder, the tendon physically retracts a few cm away from each side of the tear. The same typically happens with almost all tendon tears wherever they are in the body. You can't "heal" a full thickness tear as the body does not have any method of stretching those tendons back onto each other, holding them there, and then healing the tear. The repair is surgical, end stop.

This is just one tiny example of things that medications can't heal and require surgery to fix the underlying problem before the pain will go away.

I'm not dissing the suggestion for a med that can help pain for those with more traditional "aches and pains" issues as a result of overworking your body or whatnot, but there's no medication in the world that's going to pull a full torn tendon back together and stitch it up, or reattach it to the bone. It just does not happen.
 
PrivatePilot said:
there's no medication in the world that's going to pull a full torn tendon back together and stitch it up, or reattach it to the bone. It just does not happen.
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I can't help but start laughing when someone says "Have you tried Glucosa-MSM-chlora-essential-oils?" Uh, no. The ball is degenerating as we speak. I think I'd have better luck spreading Polyfilla on my toast in the morning.
 
PrivatePilot said:
When it's a physical issue that cannot be "healed", all medications do is mask the pain.

My shoulder issues are a result of a torn supraspinatus tendon. The tendon is physically torn. When that happens in a shoulder, the tendon physically retracts a few cm away from each side of the tear. The same typically happens with almost all tendon tears wherever they are in the body. You can't "heal" a full thickness tear as the body does not have any method of stretching those tendons back onto each other, holding them there, and then healing the tear. The repair is surgical, end stop.

This is just one tiny example of things that medications can't heal and require surgery to fix the underlying problem before the pain will go away.

I'm not dissing the suggestion for a med that can help pain for those with more traditional "aches and pains" issues as a result of overworking your body or whatnot, but there's no medication in the world that's going to pull a full torn tendon back together and stitch it up, or reattach it to the bone. It just does not happen.
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Point being that you can gain a problem from your current problem and that's opiod addiction in "pain control." Now you have two problems.. a F'ed shoulder and you are an addict. Or NSAID's shredding your gut. Now you have three problems. Your gut biome permanently damaged...now you have four problems. Brittle bones, dental problems from hydrocortisone usage...now you have five and six problems. So many problems you will hardly remember the first.

There are other options for pain that are non-addictive.

Do the surgery.
Do the physio
Use what is least toxic to the body in pain control.

Health is easy when you apply common sense.

Health is also very much a pay-me-now proposition.


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PrivatePilot said:
My shoulder issues are a result of a torn supraspinatus tendon. The tendon is physically torn. When that happens in a shoulder, the tendon physically retracts a few cm away from each side of the tear. The same typically happens with almost all tendon tears wherever they are in the body. You can't "heal" a full thickness tear as the body does not have any method of stretching those tendons back onto each other, holding them there, and then healing the tear. The repair is surgical, end stop.
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Torn Supraspinatus = Torn Rotator Cuff.
Doctors don't like operating on them very often - they've started pointing to cadaver studies of the elderly saying, "look at them. Total tear and they still managed just fine."

Myself, I had a 90% tear of the same tendon about 10-11 years ago. Used to be a serious kickboxer, and had built bunches of calcium strands inbetween the muscle layers, which were shattered during the smash into the arena boards. Built lots of scar tissue during healing. Calcium pieces were encapsulated by scar tissue, and now the muscles don't slide over each other without discomfort. Will never have same strength or flexibility ever again. All 'cause the doctors said, "old, dead people dealt with it, so you can too."

Sigh.

Sorry to hear about the issues Wingboy.
 
Latest fiasco.Wife was scheduled to see a specialist tomorrow afternoon and start some new treatment.Her office called to reschedule the appointment because the doctor has to take her cat the the vet. WTF!
 
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