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Has the city lost it's mind...

Glad they knew who this driver was and charged them. This was a bad one. What do you know, another one under a province wide driving ban for previous impaired, dangerous driving and failure to stop of police charges. :poop:😡🤬

 
The countryside has lost it as well.

We were having a bite in the Elmira area and I browsed a local newspaper.

A 21 YO male out on bail was charged with a couple of counts of arson, two vehicle thefts, assault, possession of stolen goods, possession of restricted weapons (Brass knuckles, taser). His mother said she would act as surety, making sure he'd behave until trial.

The judge declined the offer.

What is making this 21 YO so angry?

Whether it's the 21 YO or the Brampton hit and run driver what will stop them?

I'm all for compassion, forgiveness and rehabilitation. Where there is life there is hope that the person will mend their ways.

However where is the hope for those endangered or hurt by those out of control?

At some point the person is incarcerated for life. No lock on the cell. That's what welders are for.
 
As a teacher, I put part of the blame on the education system, as well as the downfall of the traditional family...not saying ALL problems stem from these two areas but both certainly play a role.

The education system is failing our kids in that we are not allowed to fail and/or discipline (give consequences, not corporal punishment) children without jumping through hoops...and even then it's almost impossible to suspend a child (no suspensions under grade 4 according to my principal)...teachers try their best to help all students be successful, but when we're dealing with constant misbehavior, those that do behave appropriately, get overlooked...parents are slow to acknowledge that there may be issues because they don't want their child labeled, so instead stick their head in the sand and blame the teacher...we pass them from grade to grade without them having actually done any work....parents coddle them and either do everything or nothing for them...single parent homes have a harder time (not all, but most) because they have to focus on work and making ends meet...I'm a Catholic and I do believe a lack of faith (any faith for that matter) is also an issue...we have a group of young people coming up that are pandered to, catered to and very poorly prepared for reality...my two cents worth...
 
That’s a well written thought on where we are . I’m worried if we can ever get past where we are .

I ejected a kid from sailing school this summer , we have a zero contact policy , 10 yr old boy punched 9yr old girl in the chest. Not his first offence at our club. Mom pulls discrimination and racism card and asks how dangerous can a 10yr old be . Well he punched a younger sailor so… mom picks kid up and leaves our facility giving everyone, including junior campers the middle finger driving away. Thanks mom .


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As a teacher, I put part of the blame on the education system, as well as the downfall of the traditional family...not saying ALL problems stem from these two areas but both certainly play a role.

The education system is failing our kids in that we are not allowed to fail and/or discipline (give consequences, not corporal punishment) children without jumping through hoops...and even then it's almost impossible to suspend a child (no suspensions under grade 4 according to my principal)...teachers try their best to help all students be successful, but when we're dealing with constant misbehavior, those that do behave appropriately, get overlooked...parents are slow to acknowledge that there may be issues because they don't want their child labeled, so instead stick their head in the sand and blame the teacher...we pass them from grade to grade without them having actually done any work....parents coddle them and either do everything or nothing for them...single parent homes have a harder time (not all, but most) because they have to focus on work and making ends meet...I'm a Catholic and I do believe a lack of faith (any faith for that matter) is also an issue...we have a group of young people coming up that are pandered to, catered to and very poorly prepared for reality...my two cents worth...
I totally blame the education system but not your part of it. It is my understanding that you have a mandate to teach in a middle of the road band of subjects, basically the three R's.

As I understand it the three R's have been reduced to one R. The computer has eliminated the need to spell, write cursively, and do math.

AI may eventually fix some of the problems but at the moment I have a problem. When I read a well laid out document and the writer puts down "There" instead of "Their" I do get the point, but it's like hitting a speed bump in an otherwise smooth transition of information.

However some parents expect you to teach manners as well. Unless you are teaching at a posh private finishing school that isn't likely on your agenda. You might even be criticized if you did because it could be taken as a stance that non traditional Canadian eating habits are bad. In some cultures loud slurping noises are a compliment to the cook and you are teaching the little one to insult his mother by not slurping.

I just committed a faux pas by assuming the mother was the cook. Maybe there is no mother but two fathers or ????

We could debate about morals, ethics and legalities forever. Morals and ethics are lines drawn in sand while legalities are lines drawn on paper and subject to smudging.

You mentioned being Catholic. Should you go the full blown Sinead O'Connor route and get labeled a radical or work from within and be seen as just another broom sweeping things under the carpet. A rhetorical question we all face, especially as traditional Canadians because we're supposed to be so nice all the time.

The education we are lacking in is in critical thinking and one would think that teaching people to think critically on all things would be good. However we have to consider the effect on the economy.

Coffee. Until the 1960's most coffee was either brewed at home or in a restaurant, not a coffee shop. Now it's a industry with its own culture at $3 a cup or more. Critical thinking would have us making coffee at home and saving $2.50 a cup X 3 times a day = $2700 a year per person.

All for pouring hot water over some inedible plant parts.

I was recently given some dark chocolate covered espresso beans and I don't enjoy sucking on the beans or chewing them so I in essence sucked off the chocolate and spat the beans into the garbage.

Then I got thinking that some people pay premium prices for coffee from beans that have been through the intestinal tract of a civet cat and said beans picked out of its excrement. Why does the thought of coffee made from beans fished out of a spittoon sound so disgusting? Critical thinking?

Most coffee shops are parts of publicly traded corporations. If everyone made their own coffee, numerous corporations would suffer. So what, one might ask, if a bunch of rich investors lose a bundle but our CPP, insurance policies, bank savings are all invested in the stock market as well. Unintended consequences. How much critical thinking can we handle economically?

How's that Pacific rim tee shirt wearing? Is it the $4 one from the dollar place or the $200 one from the exclusive shoppe? Someone has to pay for the 500 foot yacht.

Faith is an interesting subject and when not biased, includes a lot of critical thinking. Short term instant gratification vs long term stability. Faith in it's religious connotation takes me to Kahlil Gibran's comment that men make laws in their own shadows, the lame forbidding dance.

Don't like what you see on the street? Go hide in a church that tells you what you want to hear. I believe in God but not religion. I've had too many control freaks in my life already.
 
How's that Pacific rim tee shirt wearing? Is it the $4 one from the dollar place or the $200 one from the exclusive shoppe?

That's not the best analogy. The clock starts ticking on your Pacific Rim t-shirt the first time you throw it in the wash. Made in NA t-shirts aren't that much more expensive at the retail end, and will outlive sweatshop t-shirts thirtyfold. The exclusive shop model is an outlier. You're paying for a NA quality t-shirt with some ridiculously expensive embroidery.
 
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As a teacher, I put part of the blame on the education system, as well as the downfall of the traditional family...not saying ALL problems stem from these two areas but both certainly play a role.

The education system is failing our kids in that we are not allowed to fail and/or discipline (give consequences, not corporal punishment) children without jumping through hoops...and even then it's almost impossible to suspend a child (no suspensions under grade 4 according to my principal)...teachers try their best to help all students be successful, but when we're dealing with constant misbehavior, those that do behave appropriately, get overlooked...parents are slow to acknowledge that there may be issues because they don't want their child labeled, so instead stick their head in the sand and blame the teacher...we pass them from grade to grade without them having actually done any work....parents coddle them and either do everything or nothing for them...single parent homes have a harder time (not all, but most) because they have to focus on work and making ends meet...I'm a Catholic and I do believe a lack of faith (any faith for that matter) is also an issue...we have a group of young people coming up that are pandered to, catered to and very poorly prepared for reality...my two cents worth...
Well it is a gov run organization, and I would have to guess they are following the status quo of removing any accountability and offloading all the risk to others, while completely covering their butts. It's sad this kind of mentality has proliferated in Canada, because it waters down everything a everyone loses.

I've probably mentioned before all my calthoic school clients and their students are great. Whatever they are doing in these schools works much better then the rest of the system. The students are polite, behaviours are in check, listen, and more respecatable.
 
That’s a well written thought on where we are . I’m worried if we can ever get past where we are .

I ejected a kid from sailing school this summer , we have a zero contact policy , 10 yr old boy punched 9yr old girl in the chest. Not his first offence at our club. Mom pulls discrimination and racism card and asks how dangerous can a 10yr old be . Well he punched a younger sailor so… mom picks kid up and leaves our facility giving everyone, including junior campers the middle finger driving away. Thanks mom .


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Fast forward eleven years and has that kid become like the 21 YO in Elmira, carrying brass knuckles and a taser while setting fires and stealing vehicles? Mom wants him out on bail and thinks she can keep him straight.

Pulling the race card is like crying wolf. It doesn't help fight racism.

As presented, the kid was ejected for punching. The ages and sexes of the individuals is of no consequence. You don't even kick the club cat.

You have a legal problem in dealing with a minor in that the parents have to be involved. In this case it sounds like the mother is part of the problem. Without her to fall back on the kid has a better chance in fixing his attitude.

The mother slandered you and / or the club and should be sued and forced to issue an apology published at her expense in a major newspaper. Sounds fair to me but you don't need the crap fest from the bleeding hearts.

Does that mean everyone that ever told a racist joke has to do the same? Yup.

Can a black comedian use the "N" word. Nope. It gives a race special privileges.

I have suggested a solution and it requires critical factual thinking.

Give the perpetrator a sheet of paper and a pencil. Tell them to put in writing why the system shouldn't apply to them using only facts. "I think" isn't a fact, nor is "I deserve" unless there is factual evidence.

Counter every point with facts and forward thinking until the punk realizes he has no special privileges.

The problem:

What if the problem child writes: "I'm a visible minority and have been told change is coming with racism. My mother was told the same and my grandmother too. My grandmother said her mother was told the same.

When I work I pay taxes to support the workings of the country in which I live. That money is supposed to help me and others like me to get ahead. I see our political leaders give that money to their friends in sweet deals that will never benefit me or my peers.

I see local green space disappear, traded for scrub land so far away I will never be able to use it.

Why am I filing out this paper explaining my errant ways while our elected officials are getting away with worse. I misappropriated a $5000 car. They misappropriated $100 million dollars of land.

Why are you picking on me?
 
That's not the best analogy. The clock starts ticking on your Pacific Rim t-shirt the first time you throw it in the wash. Made in NA t-shirts aren't that much more expensive at the retail end, and will outlive sweatshop t-shirts thirtyfold. The exclusive shop model is an outlier. You're paying for a NA quality t-shirt with some ridiculously expensive embroidery.
True. My Harley tee shirts wore well but it was a PITA to get out the oil stains.
 
This is the type of activity that caused my high school buddy to effectively lose his entire life. He survived, but being a vegetable for the remainder of your days (I believe he's still alive) is not a life worth living IMO).


This guy should be thrown off the bridge himself. A very tall one.

EDIT: Most recent account I could find of my buddy from high school. I still recall getting the call while we were on March Break, as we went to Mexico, and he went with his parents to Florida I believe.

 
This is the type of activity that caused my high school buddy to effectively lose his entire life. He survived, but being a vegetable for the remainder of your days (I believe he's still alive) is not a life worth living IMO).


This guy should be thrown off the bridge himself. A very tall one.

EDIT: Most recent account I could find of my buddy from high school. I still recall getting the call while we were on March Break, as we went to Mexico, and he went with his parents to Florida I believe.

Probably has a mental problem, a person of that age doing that. Nonsense.
 
That’s a well written thought on where we are . I’m worried if we can ever get past where we are .

I ejected a kid from sailing school this summer , we have a zero contact policy , 10 yr old boy punched 9yr old girl in the chest. Not his first offence at our club. Mom pulls discrimination and racism card and asks how dangerous can a 10yr old be . Well he punched a younger sailor so… mom picks kid up and leaves our facility giving everyone, including junior campers the middle finger driving away. Thanks mom .


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The boys that killed James Bulger were 10 years old.
 
This is the type of activity that caused my high school buddy to effectively lose his entire life. He survived, but being a vegetable for the remainder of your days (I believe he's still alive) is not a life worth living IMO).


This guy should be thrown off the bridge himself. A very tall one.

EDIT: Most recent account I could find of my buddy from high school. I still recall getting the call while we were on March Break, as we went to Mexico, and he went with his parents to Florida I believe.

Re MP's schoolmate'

" It (The 27 pound rock) had been dropped off an overpass by two local men hopped up on alcohol and drugs and looking for laughs"

Haha funny. They crippled a guy that is now also blind and dependent on his mother. She has to worry about who will look after him when she not longer can. Their insurance has run out so for the mother retirement is never going to happen.

So what mental condition did the two morons have that justified taking drugs and alcohol?

If you think dropping a 27 pound rock on someone is fun do it sober and drop it on a drug dealer or pimp. You won't be laughing when their posse catches up to you.

They spent a few years in jail and there was nothing mentioned about them having their paychecks garnisheed for life and sent to the victim. Have they since done anything for society to atone for their bad decisions?

Here's the problem:
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Whether it's at work, play or goofing around everyone thinks their unsafe or stupid act is one of the 300,000 or 30,000 that are oopsies. No one thinks it might be the one of the 31 that kills or maims. "We wuz jest havin fun".

How do we change that without making everyone so paranoid they're afraid to have fun?
 
I don't get why high risk offenders like this guy are let back out on the streets with the police having to inform the public that he is very likely to commit another violent or sexual offence. It's depressing to see this time and time again, wondering which innocent person's life will be needlessly destroyed next... At age 22, jail time for previous conviction(s) must have been short...

Convicted sex offender released in Edmonton at risk of re-offending, police warn
 
Well, I had a second confrontation last night while out checking in with local addicts.
While I was talking to a guy I know... a strung out, and pregnant, woman attacked me.. at first with fists and then tried again with a knife. I let her throw the punches unanswered.. but obviously had to defend against the knife.. while still not wanting to hurt her. In the end, I was able to get the knife away and lay her down gently without having to hit her.. wrapped her hands up in her sweater and stood on her hair til she calmed.
She did later try to complain that her hand/wrist is sore... I didn't use much pressure, but who knows.
I'm not sure why she attacked me or the other person. I had never seen her before last night. She kept calling me Darryl the whole time. (not my name).. and making growling sounds at everyone.
She went at someone else with fists after me. When I got her attention back on me is when the knife came into it.
 
20 year old, known to police, stabs 66 year old walking a grandchild in Oshawa.

We could go on forever.
Well, I had a second confrontation last night while out checking in with local addicts.
While I was talking to a guy I know... a strung out, and pregnant, woman attacked me.. at first with fists and then tried again with a knife. I let her throw the punches unanswered.. but obviously had to defend against the knife.. while still not wanting to hurt her. In the end, I was able to get the knife away and lay her down gently without having to hit her.. wrapped her hands up in her sweater and stood on her hair til she calmed.
She did later try to complain that her hand/wrist is sore... I didn't use much pressure, but who knows.
I'm not sure why she attacked me or the other person. I had never seen her before last night. She kept calling me Darryl the whole time. (not my name).. and making growling sounds at everyone.
She went at someone else with fists after me. When I got her attention back on me is when the knife came into it.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was drugs. If I am correct, I fear for her child who would be absorbing those same chemicals. We get to deal with her kid in a few years.
 

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