Wasn't there someone on this forum whining about Ducati being too expensive because he couldn't afford one?
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H-D has a new boss
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We have a better chance of JT spending wisely.
BigEvilDoer
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Damn, I want a Diavel 1260 or Panigale v4 SOOO bad, but I don't complain about the price... It's currently out of my range, but it's a target to reach for.... Ducati > Harley Davidson every day of the week, hands down.... now to open my popcorn... hehehehehe.
ruffriders
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Do you think Ryan F9 was following this thread?
Sky_high
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All I know is the new CEO is smart, by buying a HUGE load of HD shares at a cheap price (something like $2million worth), on top of the gazillion shares he has already accumulated.
He will want his return on that 10 fold, when he cashes out. I think he will focus more on 'image' like at Puma and the luxury goods company, and not necessarily product development. I fear, purchasing HD motorcycles will become even more expensive.
He will want his return on that 10 fold, when he cashes out. I think he will focus more on 'image' like at Puma and the luxury goods company, and not necessarily product development. I fear, purchasing HD motorcycles will become even more expensive.
TK4
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The auto industry will be facing the same hurdles - business is changing, can they keep up ?
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There's some typical Ryan stab-and-twist gems in there.
"Take off the FUBAR'd stuff, go AWOL on life, and take their PTSD on the road."
"One of their best selling models is a giant mobility scooter."
I almost spit my drink through my nose when I heard that one.
Roadghost
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Well, here it is. For some of us there will be Harleys. For the rest of us everything else.
www.cnet.com
www.thedrive.com
Harley-Davidson plans to save itself by selling fewer bikes, report says
H-D wants to take the old luxury goods trick of limiting availability to increase desirability and apply it to its sales model.
www.cnet.com
The Cuts Are Coming for Harley-Davidson
The moves are drastic, but the company has been on the ropes for years.
www.thedrive.com
Sold my 1999 in 2006 with 267,000 for $3100.300k dodge caravans?
Trans was replaced once under warranty.
Would have kept it longer if I didn't get the 2005 that I was offered.
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Was somewhat tongue in cheek ?
We use them at the office to run people and equipment, I think a few are over 200k already.
Mad Mike
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I have always seen HOG as a survivor... kinda like dandelions and thistles in my garden.
HOG recovered from an 80% drop in sales after the Great depression, in the 70's they survived AMF, in the 80's they survived the Japanese invasion. They also weathered inept Italians - twice - Aermacchi and MV-Agusta.
It may take a few years for a resurgence, I think they will do it.
HOG recovered from an 80% drop in sales after the Great depression, in the 70's they survived AMF, in the 80's they survived the Japanese invasion. They also weathered inept Italians - twice - Aermacchi and MV-Agusta.
It may take a few years for a resurgence, I think they will do it.
The upside to a slowly evolving core product line is that strategy could work for HD. Everybody basically knows what a roadglide looks like, sounds like and feels like. The incremental changes are just minor cosmetic bumps. Those walking into a Harley dealer and buying a bike normally know what they want and are not that concerned about what it costs nor are they cross-shopping vs other cruisers.Well, here it is. For some of us there will be Harleys. For the rest of us everything else.
Harley-Davidson plans to save itself by selling fewer bikes, report says
H-D wants to take the old luxury goods trick of limiting availability to increase desirability and apply it to its sales model.
The Cuts Are Coming for Harley-Davidson
The moves are drastic, but the company has been on the ropes for years.
I'm not sure how it works for dealers though. They have been forced to build huge expensive facilities. As much as the current message says they can concentrate on used, that is a rough road. They are setup for high margin expensive bikes and that is very rarely what the used market is. Also HD may say they should concentrate on used, but when you walk into a HD showroom and 80% of it is not HD, I am sure corporate will quickly kibosh that idea. Or are they telling them to concentrate on used but only HD? Also seems to be a loser situation as that will be a damned expensive used bike market and I don't think there will be enough buyers to support it. Again, the upside to a slowly changing product line is with a kijiji ad for a roadglide you know basically what you are getting and what fair market value is. There is little room for a dealer premium unless they bundle a warranty (and is that warranty worth the dealer premium?).
Mad Mike
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I would guess HD dealers will focus on service, upgrades, garb and some will go harder in the short term rental business. I don't imagine new vehicles pay the freight in any automotive dealership -- they are the feedstock for parts and service revenues. I'm also guessing there are a lot of new bikes in the pipeline right now, these will slowly burn off as production ramps.
HD really screwed over many good small dealers when they made them all upgrade facilities. Many good dealers were lost as they could not make the jump to a big building along a highway....
Today they get many of the used bikes via trade-ins from people upgrading to a new bike (at the usual trade in low price). Without the new bikes sales I think they will have a hard time acquiring enough used inventory with enough margin to sell it for enough profit.
They also still need to break the dealer attitude for many of the big ones left (not all but too many). The entire HD or it is not a real bike thing. It helped kill Buell, it is hurting their down market bikes today and even the v-rod, not real bikes blah blah blah. Imagine those dealers now selling used Hondas... The attitude I received at multiple dealers wanting to check out a Buell back in the day was alarming.
I hope most dealerships are owned by conglomerates (Like Policaro) and have multiple revenue centers, or are a passion project and they own several other businesses. What a tough business model for a family that just run a motorcycle shop.
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