Guelph - Motorcycle noise by-law coming.

Come on now, back in the 70's any biker was to be feared.
Even my little CB350 scared people.
It was real, and people steered clear of you.


Where was this? In Toronto in the '70's I don't remember anyone being frightened of people riding Honda's (other than maybe some old lady at a crosswalk).

The only bikers that ever were threatening to people of my circle in the '70's were the Paradise, HA and others.
 
Where was this? In Toronto in the '70's I don't remember anyone being frightened of people riding Honda's (other than maybe some old lady at a crosswalk).

The only bikers that ever were threatening to people of my circle in the '70's were the Paradise, HA and others.

I occasionally get a mother pulling her small child close to her as I ride by, haha. Most of them return a friendly wave though. Of course, I don't ride a Harley so maybe those are "scarier".
 
FYI - in Dec.12/12 Guelph Mercury newspaper.


Guelph bikers should ask Santa for quieter exhaust pipes

GUELPH – Local motorcyclists should be asking for quieter exhaust pipes for Christmas.
A city committee this week approved an amendment to the noise bylaw which will allow the city to regulate the decibel output of two-wheelers and charge owners whose machines exceed the acceptable level.
Staff is proposing a $300 fine.
The bylaw amendment, if approved by city councillors next Monday, will come into effect in the spring.
Staff is recommending the use of a roadside test – known as SAE J2825 – developed by the Society of Automotive Engineers. The test requires all motorcycles to emit no more than 92 decibels while idling, and not more than 100 decibels while running at a set RPM level.
One hundred decibels represents the same noise level as standing beside a jackhammer, said Luc Fournier, director of government relations with the Motorcycle and Moped Industry Council.
The city consulted with the council in setting the standard.
“As an industry . . . we want to be part of the solution,” Fournier told the committee.
He said every motorcycle sold new in Canada already meets noise guidelines similar to SAE J2825.
“Problems only happen when people make their own alterations,” Fournier said.
A staff report noted while some motorcyclists believe excessively-loud exhaust systems offer protection to riders, there is no evidence to support this.
“In staff’s opinion, visibility through proper attire along with proper and safe driving practices affords the best protection for motorcyclists,” the report reads.
Susan Ratcliffe, one of two residents who prompted the changes when she complained to the committee about loud motorcycles in late 2011, joked this week she is looking forward to “flocks of Hells Angels wearing bright pink vests driving through Guelph making not a sound.”
Barry Bowman, who lives near the intersection of Victoria and Woodlawn roads, said in the summer it is “almost impossible” to use his backyard because of the “constant drone” of traffic on those arterial roads.
Doug Godfrey, the city’s manager of bylaw compliance and security, said officers will have to have reasonable grounds for laying an offence, which will likely require the bike to be running.
He does not know if the bylaw will allow officers to force an owner to start a motorcycle for the purpose of testing.
“We need to be able to effectively act on complaints,” Coun. Bob Bell said.
stracey@guelphmercury.com

loud pipes save lives , car drivers obviously cant see us its been demonstrated time and time again so if you have loud pipes then they obviously hear you witch makes you visible to them because they look to see where the sound is coming, i demand they bring random bad drivers in and ask them if loud pipes have made it more clear for them to notice bikers
 
As been said many times before if they follow SAE J2825 this has no impact on almost all riders. Even riders like me with a decent after market exhaust without a baffle that is by no means quite am well under. As Brain said Don't be a straight-pipe / no muffler / way undersized muffler / no packing left inside idiot, and it won't be a problem.
 
Niagara area.
Bike gangs were pretty strong in the area back then.


Where was this? In Toronto in the '70's I don't remember anyone being frightened of people riding Honda's (other than maybe some old lady at a crosswalk).

The only bikers that ever were threatening to people of my circle in the '70's were the Paradise, HA and others.
 
I have a loud pipe. If for no other reason than the fact that I like the sound, but I keep it quiet when I need to, in order to be respectful.

Never seen or heard your bike, but I bet you'd pass the noise test.

This regulation is aimed at actual losers, not the self-mocking but rational folk like you.
 
Caledon also has a similar bylaw in effect and I'm not aware of anyone receiving a ticket.

They did this in edmonton, ran a huge blitz and didnt even hand out enough tickets to pay for the measuring devices. The only people who failed were straight piped cruisers and SS bikes with GP style "mufflers" if you can even call them a muffler. Even an 1198 with termis passed, all be it right on the limit.

I love that they want to go after clowns with no mufflers.
 
Translation ... I doubt if it's going to be enforced. (Same lack of enforcement as Caledon and Oakville.)
 
Since when does much of anything get enforced besides speeding? heh
 
I'm sorry. I grew up in Thorold. Most people laughed and made fun of harley riders with loud pipes in the area. They were definitely not feared at all (mostly lower-class poor white-trash)... You can't be a "tough biker" in Canada given the laws. The smallest legal infraction costs a large fine. Biker gangs in Canada are a joke.
 
Interesting...if it is a bylaw officer who tries to pull me over they can go f*ck themselves.
No red lights = no pull over. (And maybe the finger for good measure.)

Kovaks was right, they have no authority to pull vehicles over, which means it not enforceable.
If a bylaw officer motions you to pull over and you do...you are a fool.

If it is a cop...I have a more polite answer. In that case I will obey.
 
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"I'm sorry. I grew up in Thorold. Most people laughed and made fun of harley riders with loud pipes in the area. They were definitely not feared at all (mostly lower-class poor white-trash)... You can't be a "tough biker" in Canada given the laws. The smallest legal infraction costs a large fine. Biker gangs in Canada are a joke."


Reeeeaaaallly....can I be a fly on the wall when you tell them that?

It's easy to be a tough guy on the interwebs, I'd bet my paycheck you would **** your pants if some of my biker relatives had a "conversation" with you in real life.
 
.. I never said I was a tough-guy nor was I trying to be. I was simply stating my opinion on "biker-gangs" in Thorold. However, I would only be afraid if your "biker-relatives" are criminals who engage in criminal activity which include assault and/or murder.

So yeah.. I would be pretty scared if you are calling your "biker-relatives" criminals who would risk prison by assaulting or murdering me.

I don't understand.. you seem proud of it?
 
Not sure about Thorold, lol...but I'd like to see you call a group of Vagabonds/Hell's Angels/Rock Machine...how did you put it " mostly lower-class poor white-trash ".

Great guys to hang out and drink with if they are your friends or family...bad guys to mess with if you are a little pecker head that likes to run their mouth.


 
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