Guelph - Motorcycle noise by-law coming.

AFJ said:
FYI - in Dec.12/12 Guelph Mercury newspaper.


Guelph bikers should ask Santa for quieter exhaust pipes

GUELPH – Local motorcyclists should be asking for quieter exhaust pipes for Christmas.
A city committee this week approved an amendment to the noise bylaw which will allow the city to regulate the decibel output of two-wheelers and charge owners whose machines exceed the acceptable level.
Staff is proposing a $300 fine.
The bylaw amendment, if approved by city councillors next Monday, will come into effect in the spring.
Staff is recommending the use of a roadside test – known as SAE J2825 – developed by the Society of Automotive Engineers. The test requires all motorcycles to emit no more than 92 decibels while idling, and not more than 100 decibels while running at a set RPM level.
One hundred decibels represents the same noise level as standing beside a jackhammer, said Luc Fournier, director of government relations with the Motorcycle and Moped Industry Council.
The city consulted with the council in setting the standard.
“As an industry . . . we want to be part of the solution,” Fournier told the committee.
He said every motorcycle sold new in Canada already meets noise guidelines similar to SAE J2825.
“Problems only happen when people make their own alterations,” Fournier said.
A staff report noted while some motorcyclists believe excessively-loud exhaust systems offer protection to riders, there is no evidence to support this.
“In staff’s opinion, visibility through proper attire along with proper and safe driving practices affords the best protection for motorcyclists,” the report reads.
Susan Ratcliffe, one of two residents who prompted the changes when she complained to the committee about loud motorcycles in late 2011, joked this week she is looking forward to “flocks of Hells Angels wearing bright pink vests driving through Guelph making not a sound.”
Barry Bowman, who lives near the intersection of Victoria and Woodlawn roads, said in the summer it is “almost impossible” to use his backyard because of the “constant drone” of traffic on those arterial roads.
Doug Godfrey, the city’s manager of bylaw compliance and security, said officers will have to have reasonable grounds for laying an offence, which will likely require the bike to be running.
He does not know if the bylaw will allow officers to force an owner to start a motorcycle for the purpose of testing.
“We need to be able to effectively act on complaints,” Coun. Bob Bell said.
stracey@guelphmercury.com
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Surprised they where not one of the first to be honest
 
AFJ said:
FYI - in Dec.12/12 Guelph Mercury newspaper.


Guelph bikers should ask Santa for quieter exhaust pipes

GUELPH – Local motorcyclists should be asking for quieter exhaust pipes for Christmas.
A city committee this week approved an amendment to the noise bylaw which will allow the city to regulate the decibel output of two-wheelers and charge owners whose machines exceed the acceptable level.
Staff is proposing a $300 fine.
The bylaw amendment, if approved by city councillors next Monday, will come into effect in the spring.
Staff is recommending the use of a roadside test – known as SAE J2825 – developed by the Society of Automotive Engineers. The test requires all motorcycles to emit no more than 92 decibels while idling, and not more than 100 decibels while running at a set RPM level.
One hundred decibels represents the same noise level as standing beside a jackhammer, said Luc Fournier, director of government relations with the Motorcycle and Moped Industry Council.
The city consulted with the council in setting the standard.
“As an industry . . . we want to be part of the solution,” Fournier told the committee.
He said every motorcycle sold new in Canada already meets noise guidelines similar to SAE J2825.
“Problems only happen when people make their own alterations,” Fournier said.
A staff report noted while some motorcyclists believe excessively-loud exhaust systems offer protection to riders, there is no evidence to support this.
“In staff’s opinion, visibility through proper attire along with proper and safe driving practices affords the best protection for motorcyclists,” the report reads.
Susan Ratcliffe, one of two residents who prompted the changes when she complained to the committee about loud motorcycles in late 2011, joked this week she is looking forward to “flocks of Hells Angels wearing bright pink vests driving through Guelph making not a sound.”
Barry Bowman, who lives near the intersection of Victoria and Woodlawn roads, said in the summer it is “almost impossible” to use his backyard because of the “constant drone” of traffic on those arterial roads.
Doug Godfrey, the city’s manager of bylaw compliance and security, said officers will have to have reasonable grounds for laying an offence, which will likely require the bike to be running.
He does not know if the bylaw will allow officers to force an owner to start a motorcycle for the purpose of testing.
“We need to be able to effectively act on complaints,” Coun. Bob Bell said.
stracey@guelphmercury.com
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Now that is obviously people hating on motorcyclists. People on two wheels need quieter pipes why? Cause it disturbs people in the neighboring area? Okay. So what happens when a car or a truck with obnoxiously loud pipes drive by? Nothing, cause this is targetted at "two wheelers". That is pure bs.
 
PLau said:
Now that is obviously people hating on motorcyclists. People on two wheels need quieter pipes why? Cause it disturbs people in the neighboring area? Okay. So what happens when a car or a truck with obnoxiously loud pipes drive by? Nothing, cause this is targetted at "two wheelers". That is pure bs.
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Just means we all know where to take our straight-piped V-8s
 
100 dBs are ok....and 92 dBs while idling is more than eneough...akra,yosh,2bros are all below 92 dBs while idling
 
This is directed at open pipe cruiser clowns who think their throttle is just a volume control.
FYI: I am not calling cruiser riders clowns, but I AM calling open pipe riders clowns. I have a cruiser as well.
 
Wow... Two people complained.
First, if you don't like traffic noise, don't buy a house near a major intersection. Amazing idea I know, but if a loser like me can figure that out...
And why would you expect hells angels to give a damn about a local noise by-law? I'll still be riding through Guelph with my two bros, so I'm sure they won't give a damn about this either. And I've never noticed flocks of hells angels... But I guess if you're riding a bunch of friends that like riding harleys together with a vest and some kind of patch on the back, you're a 1%er.

I have a loud pipe. If for no other reason than the fact that I like the sound, but I keep it quiet when I need to, in order to be respectful.
 
Guelph bikers should protest by taking off their exhaust systems and riding in a huge group revving for no reason while they still can. :lol:
 
matt220 said:
Guelph bikers should protest by taking off their exhaust systems and riding in a huge group revving for no reason while they still can. :lol:
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The straight pipe turkeys (and fart-can tuners) have been doing exactly that for years already. The appetite for this sort of legislation wouldn't exist otherwise.
 
Oakville implemented this same bylaw earlier this year. How many people received tickets because of it?

Exactly.

This bylaw doesn't affect the vast majority of bikes out there, only bikes with straight pipes. And I'm pretty sure most of this community is against straight pipes, so really, there shouldn't be any disagreement.
 
Caledon also has a similar bylaw in effect and I'm not aware of anyone receiving a ticket.
 
I find that these people that think they are in the movie Fast and Furious with their crappy sounding exhausts and the same people with their huge mud bogging trucks waaaaaaaaaaaay more annoying...
 
Remember when bikers were bikers?
Even the cops were afraid of us.
 
rmemedic said:
Wow... Two people complained.
First, if you don't like traffic noise, don't buy a house near a major intersection.
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Thank you! I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought this too.
 
I live near Hamilton airport. You wouldn't believe the number of folks who move here THEN complain about the planes
The airport was built almost 70 years ago!! Airports have planes, sometimes big ones with loud jet engines and everything, loud bikes in my area just fit right in :)

If you think about it, the Lancaster has 48 6" long OPEN PIPES. It's damn loud, you can hear it for MILES. Sounds bloody amazing too! Or the Harvard who's prop tips are supersonic at take off.
 
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Is there an organization that has motorcyclists in Guelph signed up with their postal codes?

If you ride a motorcycle, drive stick (e.g know how to drive), play cards, shoot, hunt, keep a dog, own land, smoke, drink, are self employed or own a small business, you are basically a threat to society and political hay for these hysterical types.

I don't have loud pipes. There are already lots of nuisance-prevention laws that could be enforced to keep the peace. What we need is an organization where someone can say to these politicians, "Posture all you want, I've got 500 voters with households in your riding who will vote against you if you support this. Your call."
 
OMGSelenaGomez said:
Will it be actual cops or bylaw wannabe's doing enforcement?
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If it's anything like Caledon, it'll be nobody doing enforcement. To borrow a phrase from Rob Maclennan, this may be a "do you want fries with that" type of ticket ... only given out to people who are being idiots. Don't be a straight-pipe / no muffler / way undersized muffler / no packing left inside idiot, and it won't be a problem.
 
The people we get in the area I used to live would move in on an 80 kph road and then complain that the speed limit is too high. If the speed limit on the road outside your house is too high why did you move there?
 
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