Governments overthrown around the world

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Some context. The Sri Lankan government was basically made up of two brothers and their families. The unrest was more to do with corruption.

Boris Johnson was finally kicked out because he got caught lying too many times.

What’s happening is that finally people understand that you actually need competent politicians in order to effect policy that will help rather than window dressings that have no clue.

Canada has the highest projected growth of all the G7 countries. Trudeau is a knob, but we’re doing ok.
 
At any time in history there is a percentage of people that are unsatisfied with their government.
Add the uncertainty and inequality of Covid... and that percentage gets bigger, and more popular. Look what happened HERE with the "convoy'.
Add spiraling inflation and Ukraine you get a LOT of unsatisfied people that want to take it out on someone... ELSE.

If the world's economy was humming along, all this unrest would be underground... but its NOT
 
jc100 said:
Some context. The Sri Lankan government was basically made up of two brothers and their families. The unrest was more to do with corruption.

Boris Johnson was finally kicked out because he got caught lying too many times.

What’s happening is that finally people understand that you actually need competent politicians in order to effect policy that will help rather than window dressings that have no clue.

Canada has the highest projected growth of all the G7 countries. Trudeau is a knob, but we’re doing ok.
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Unfortunately, that's projected and not real.
Kind of the same way that the government works now.
Good things in the spot light and on subsidized media, bad things hidden in the closet.
Except even the media isn't always playing ball anymore.
In the meantime more little ones get crushed.

 
Baggsy said:
Unfortunately, that's projected and not real.
Kind of the same way that the government works now.
Good things in the spot light and on subsidized media, bad things hidden in the closet.
Except even the media isn't always playing ball anymore.
In the meantime more little ones get crushed.

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And if/when the projections are not achieved some mouthpiece from Ottawa will be telling us that we need to tighten up our belts while he is sitting on a gold bidet and jetting off on a tropical holiday.
 
And there is the problem with the majority of revolutionaries. We just overthrew the presidential palace!! What is a first big move ?? Let swim in the pool……


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jc100 said:
Some context. The Sri Lankan government was basically made up of two brothers and their families. The unrest was more to do with corruption.

Boris Johnson was finally kicked out because he got caught lying too many times.

What’s happening is that finally people understand that you actually need competent politicians in order to effect policy that will help rather than window dressings that have no clue.

Canada has the highest projected growth of all the G7 countries. Trudeau is a knob, but we’re doing ok.
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Thing is in Canada, our feds dont control economic growth as much as many other countries. We are still resource based, so like Russia we prosper when world prices and demand for rocks, oil and trees is high.

Ontario is the primary economic engine for manufacturing, finance and tech, success and growth here is more closely tied to provincial govts.

Both levels of govt contribute, the true test will be if world economies turn down. Over the last half century international downturns made Canadians struggled under Liberal leadership, not so much under Conservatives.
 
Cons or libs. All the same. Whoever is in power will always be hated and ridiculed. Go to school, learn a trade, get a job, get paid, work, live and go on with life. Too many freedom fighters complaining about "freedom". We have it good in Canada. Sad some can't see that. Go ride a motorcycle and he happy.
 
Max527 said:
Cons or libs. All the same. Whoever is in power will always be hated and ridiculed. Go to school, learn a trade, get a job, get paid, work, live and go on with life. Too many freedom fighters complaining about "freedom". We have it good in Canada. Sad some can't see that. Go ride a motorcycle and he happy.
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Happy people don't buy things. The economy demands the population be unhappy.
 
Mad Mike said:
Over the last half century international downturns made Canadians struggled under Liberal leadership, not so much under Conservatives.
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And what of those international downturns did our governments (regardless of political stripe) have any meaningful degree of responsibility for, or control over?

Complain all you want, but we came through the 2008 recession/depression relatively okay, and we came through the pandemic relatively okay and with deaths per million citizens towards the lower end of the range among developed countries as opposed to towards the higher end in the country south of us.

Right now I'm short of work because industry can't get enough electronic components to do what there is demand for. That's not reasonably under control of anything government does. Demanding that we build all that stuff here may be a noble intention with an understandable sentiment behind it but that's not how things work right now (Canada is not going to be a major center of semiconductor manufacturing - it ain't gonna happen). Unrestricted free-market capitalism would have all of that stuff built in the developing world where costs are practically free. The way the left-wing wants to do it (no international trade!) ain't gonna work. The way the right-wing wants to do it (international free-for-all) ain't gonna work, either. The way a bunch of screaming children want to do it (screaming for less government intervention while simultaneously screaming for restrictions on international trade!) ain't gonna fly, either. You cannot have your cake and eat it, too.

Alberta mismanaged oil and gas resources and ended up with nothing. Norway managed theirs and is in good shape. Both patterns established through decades of successive elected governments.
 
Saw videos of the president fleeing the country on a navy ship, with large suitcases, I wonder which currency he was carrying :unsure:
 
MacDoc said:
Careful with the koolaid....should we consider Brian Mulroney :unsure:

Or let's look at the outstanding management of Canadian fossil fuels courtesy Alberta...compared to say Norway ?

Or the size of gov under " we won't take no pensions" Harper. :coffee:
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We should definitely consider Trudeau senior.
Wasn't he also finance minister under Pearson, the father of our debt?
Maybe that's where the not so much comes from.
The apple hasn't fallen far from the tree.
 
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