01Cbr is right,all you get with a mx bike is a bill of sale.The reason most people have ownerships is because they had to get a green plate to be able to ride trails.
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Getting started dirt biking
- Thread starter bboySushi
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That's fine. What I'm trying to say is the government does not see it that way. A bike is a bike. Does an MX bike have a VIN? If yes, then it should have an ownership. It is not hard to get one and I will just about guarantee that if you ask the dealership for one when you buy it, they will get you one.
Simply put, I don't want someone else to buy a stolen bike like I did. It was a kids bike, so I didn't think it needed an ownership either, until I tried to get a plate for it.
Of course you don't "need" one for a track only bike, but just a street track only bike, it just makes ownership issues easier.
If that's not clear enough to get across what I'm trying to convey, I apologize.
The only reason you can even get an ownership for an mx bike is because it happens to meet Ontario green plate standards.
You dont need an ownership to check if I bike has been stolen.
You can get an ownership for an MX bike because it has a VIN.
See post 16. I already know that. Thanks.
Why are you fighhting this so hard? I'm just trying to help people make a safe purchase, the easiest way to do that is to have an ownership, that's all.
OK lets move on guys,no need for this.
rmemedic
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Just want to throw it in there, that both of my recent MX bikes have come from a dealership. my 04 was used, my 2010 was brand new and both came with an ownership, wasn't even a question.
Because your telling people you cant legally buy an mx bike without and ownership, which is wrong.
Actually no I'm not. If I have an bike in my name and I sell it to you with a bill of sale, then as far as the government is concerned I still own the bike if you never transferred ownership. It's a technicality. You don't LEGALLY own it unless its in your name.
The issue arises from people like you that never do any of this and then ten years down the road someone buys it and for whatever reason they need an ownership. All of a sudden they need to jump through hoops because someone before them was to lazy to do it right.
Keep trying. I know I said I give up, but I have time.
Start your own thread or pm each other,this has nothing to do with OPs original question.
I beg to differ. I think this is a very important issue for someone getting into dirt biking. They should be aware of what they need to have in order to legally own the bike they buy.
padu
Well-known member
Right so start your own thread of your way and opinions on how to purchase a bike the Right way,and have people comment on that.Plus a simple search would show you plenty of threads about pros and cons about purchasing a bike with or without ownership and what to do.
A simple search would show lots of things being discussed many times over. This thread was about someone getting into dirt biking.
I replied some valuable information. Someone disagreed and was in my opinion misinforming other people. I then countered his opinion and we went back and forth with me trying to correct him and prevent others from continuing his misinformation.
I'm pretty sure this is how a forum works. Someone starts a thread and people discuss it. Sometimes it diverts a bit from the exact issue and brings up other issues that are then discussed. Sometimes someone brings up something not related at all and that start a new thread.
I fail to see how purchasing a dirt bike in the proper legal way is vastly different than "getting into dirt biking". Someone needs to know how to legally purchase one in order to "get into" it.
Also, I've never understood the whole "take it to pm" thing. I would like to see what both people are saying in order to make an informed choice.
Why do you seem so butt hurt over this issue?
I enjoyed the discussion and feel it has value. I don't understand mod wannabe behaviour either. Go get 'em.
Most of these mx bikes on the market have NEVER had an ownership. If you have a problem with the way they are being sold take it up with shops that are doing it like machine racing.
BTW all my vehicles are registered in my name.
I never had an interest in "discussing" this with you. Just put it out there for the OP that most mx bikes out there wont come with an ownership but you can still by one of them and get one for it. With the specified budget, older mx bikes would be one of the few options.
Because its the same ****** over and over blah blah blah.................................................................I enjoyed the discussion and feel it has value. I don't understand mod wannabe behaviour either. Go get 'em.
See the OP. Why are you talking about MX bikes? He specifies that he is looking to do trail riding. Guess what? He needs a plate and insurance. Guess what else? He can't get a plate without an ownership hence my whole reason to make sure he understands that there's a lot of people like you that don't have ownerships for their bikes. If he was to buy one from you, he would have to jump through some hoops to get one. I am trying to save him and others from having to do that, by educating stubborn people like yourself.
How would you know this? Is your name on the ownership, or do you have UVIP for them?
You're telling me, it's like talking to the wall dealing with this guy.
I have owned quite a few mx bikes and have never bought one without an ownership. This includes both new and used. Why would you take the risk ? Not worth it in my opinion. If i call about a bike and there is no ownership i move on. I have seen a few threads on here about people who have bought without ownership and have then had to jump through hoops trying to get one.
I have an ownership for all my bikes. Bill of sale, trip to the ministry, you do the math.
Im done responding to you.
My need to learn to read and understand posts.
Im done responding to you.
My need to learn to read and understand posts.
You are one confusing fella. Have a nice day.
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