Getting over that traffic speed hurtle, newbs share your stories

[PLau]

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all good points, she does 50 in a 50 and 40 in a 40 lol...
It's just the mentality of speed limits are sort of irrelevant in the city, you have to go with the flow. its safer, bottom line.

wowowo easy there

I simply meant going with the flow of traffic is the proper approach.
Doing 46 in a 50 zone in the right lane is not safe to me...

What is wrong with a nice hard accell to get up to speed and in front of the pack??? absolutely nothing.

The thing is that you weren't saying doing 46 in a 50 zone being safe or not, you were talking about doing the speed limit.

Nothing wrong except a hard accel to get to the front of the pack unless you get sniped by a cop pointing a radar of you going 50+ in doing so.

I agree it is safer to go with the flow of traffic but this whole time you were arguing that she is hesitating to go 20km/h+ over and all of a sudden you're saying that shes going below the speed limit.

Nothing really wrong with going the limit, just stay to the right is all...

Maybe she has another reason not to speed such as insurance. I try to keep my head all the time cause my insurance agent told me if I get 1 more ticket, they'd drop me (SF).

 

[kiwi]

DVP 401 during off peak times.
That will get her used to speed.

That s a race track for some.. Iol..

Just head out unto the country

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[Lyndsay]

Is there anything you can add to her bike to reduce the wind pressure she feels? I added a windscreen to my old Honda and instantly could add about 15 mph to get to the same level of buffeting.

 

[Paul1000RR]

SO aside from the obvious seat time, what are your thoughts on getting new'ish riders over that hump?
Im all for safety and it really unnerves me when someone im trying to help wont get going above the speed limit.

I can only repeat myself so many times. "get up to speed, go with the flow of traffic, its more dangerous to have that car right behind you riding your tail than using your throttle to get up to traffic speed"

I know seat time is the key here and the more time my friend gets the better, but I took her out on the Allen road Sunday and nerves/wind got the best of her.
She is a great rider when it comes to slow speed skill and traffic awareness and overall riding skills. But the clincher for me is her inability to 70 in a 60 zone when cars are lined up behind her...i cringe. She has no problem accelerating either, its just she stops when she feels she is going "fast enough". This is where I say, its not fast enough based on the traffic flow, etc. Specifically on the Allen, she was doing 75 and felt that was enough...I find it way more settling being ahead of the traffic pack and being far away from those potential dangers...

New people, what have your experiences been like? When did you finally become OK with speeding and getting past the traffic, etc?

I don't know how long you've been riding but after doing it for a while you forget what its like to be a newb.
Everyone learns at different pace and pushing her probably isn't the best idea in my opinion.
I'd stay behind her and let her get more comfortable on her own, or get a speedohealer and recalibrate her speedo :lmao:

 

[vrus]

I miss those days, when 40km/h felt like 80km/h

 

[unL33T]

Never had much of a problem with the speed but my first day was spent out in the country. Every road over 80 kph. It was a left turn from a standstill that got me 115 km later on my first day, lol.

Maybe because I was the type of person that before the newer racing laws I had my cruise control on my car set at 150 kph before I even got off the on ramp and didn't touch it again until my destination 30 minutes later so I'm pretty used to speed?

But I will say at speeds above say 120 kph I do get a little nervous on the bike. 170 kph (did once) was a little frightening on the bike but I've gone over 200 in the car and it felt fine. Mostly just because I worry about what will happen to me if some dickhole cuts me off or something and I don't put in nearly enough KM per year to get 100% comfortable.

 

[Pedagogue]

Does, she do this all of the time or was it just Sunday? Riding on Sunday wouldn't have been fun for anyone as it was extremely windy. What bike does she own?


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[karentsang]

Does, she do this all of the time or was it just Sunday? Riding on Sunday wouldn't have been fun for anyone as it was extremely windy. What bike does she own?


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Sunday was not pleasant. I was only going about 85 (in a 70 zone) and my bike would squirrel around...

Anyway, OP, there's a difference between her being afraid of riding traffic speed and not understanding the need to ride at traffic speed. Seems like she is the latter. In which case, she may eventually learn the hard way, or suffer endless chiding from fellow riders.

 

[Fontes59]

id say try to find country roads that has little to no traffic so she can get use to speed without having to worry about cars all around her

 

[el_felo]

Sorry OP didn't really saw all responses...


Try taking her to a 70 or 80 street, none highway.. say eglinton near Mississauga road or Kingstone before it goes over the 401.

Maybe she needs to feel the bike at that speed to get more comfortable.

Find a none busy road and see how she reacts, maybe she is just staying with the speed limit in fear of a ticket? If she sees 80 and gets her bike up to 80.

 

[matt123]

I'm sure she gets the concept but........

I have taught many people how to ride and have found that the ones who drag their *** in traffic have had a past terrifying experience in a mild sweep as they have not learned how to push steer the bike.They fear crossing the line and oncoming traffic.It's muscle memory but they have to think about it and at speed that can be a little scary.A lot of time spent in slow slalom practice sessions with increasing speed helps.We used to use the broken white line on a closed road for at speed slalom practice.It can very be hard to recognize a new rider losing control in a sweep or corner.They have to fully understand the mechanics of counter/push steering and practice in a safe place until in becomes second nature or they will be overtaken by fear every time they see a corner coming up.
The other issue is sheer sensory overload at speed which can only be mitigated by forcing themselves to ride the same road at low traffic times like Sunday mornings at speed for hours.The experienced rider should never ever take the lead.You have to let them RIDE THEIR RIDE stay back and let them set the pace while you block,eventually it will get better .If they need to speed it up tell them when they stop and then go do it again.Once there comfortable at 10kph over the limit take them in traffic.Rushing it will only get them hurt or hating the bike.It takes about 3000km before the meek become comfortable in all typical riding situations.Just my two cents.

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