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Canuckles said:
Hey guys on my way to work today I had my first slider. Back tire slid out from under me just after making a turn slipped out from under me. I’m alright a few small scrapes, I had my gear on so that limited the damage. Bikes alright I was able to ride it home but looks like I might’ve clipped a coolant line, need a new bar end for my left handle bar and new clutch lever. Other than that I’m pretty lucky that’s all I got away with. Hope everyone rides safe today
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Does anyone know what this is? Came off my bike during the crash went and picked up the part and my go pro chin mount from the crash site
 

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Riding in wet conditions is always a crap shoot as the rain brings a lot of the oil, fuel etc. to the surface.
My assumption is that you hit a "oily" patch during your turn, thinking back were you in the center of the lane or on the side?
These are the lessons that we learn. When I first started riding I rode in every type of weather and had many close calls, now that I am older I'm a little more picky when I ride to try to ensure the best outcome.
 
Relax said:
Sorry to hear about this, and glad you came out relatively unharmed. Doesn't the bike have traction control?

That said, please don't take this the wrong way, but that's not the correct mindset if you want to learn from this incident. Luckily this happened at low speed, but it doesn't matter if you THINK you weren't pushing the bike's limits, you actually were (and exceeded them) for you to lose traction). Which means given the same situation in the future, the same thing will happen again if you don't adjust your riding. You can't just blame it on the road conditions.
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I try to de-brief myself after a ride. What did I do that was right and what did I do that was risky. Make a note to do more of the first and less of the second. No crash required. Do it in the cage as well, always try to do better, even when you don't have to.
 
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Mad Mike said:
One thing I always suggest is return to the scene and reconstruct what happened in your head. The overall situation, road & weather conditions. What did the other driver's do? What did you do? Why did it happen?

Once you understand the answers, try a mental reconstruction that has you recognize the peril of the situation (situational awareness). Then think through ways you might avoid or manage the situation next time for a better outcome.

Glad you are OK!
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Actually just did that and got a pretty good idea. What happened was once I straightened up out of the turn and started accelerating. Looks like the tired skidded a little but before I could correct it I had already added more throttle and it slipped out from under me. Definitely easily preventable
 
Canuckles said:
Does anyone know what this is? Came off my bike during the crash went and picked up the part and my go pro chin mount from the crash site
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You sure it's yours? Or potentially it was there already you just didn't notice it?
 
Relax said:
Sorry to hear about this, and glad you came out relatively unharmed. Doesn't the bike have traction control?

That said, please don't take this the wrong way, but that's not the correct mindset if you want to learn from this incident. Luckily this happened at low speed, but it doesn't matter if you THINK you weren't pushing the bike's limits, you actually were (and exceeded them) for you to lose traction). Which means given the same situation in the future, the same thing will happen again if you don't adjust your riding. You can't just blame it on the road conditions.
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My bad didn’t mean to make it sound like I was kicking all the blame off myself I just went to the crash scene for a mental debrief and there was a lot I could’ve done. My best idea of what happened is as I exited the turn and started to speed up to road speeds I hit a wet or oily patch and tire skidded. Before I had time to correct it properly since I think from the time it skidded to the time I hit the ground was maybe a few hundred milliseconds, I didn’t get a chance to reduce throttle or I added more throttle and it slid out from under me. I marked down the skid marks in the ground for reference but I think that’s about as accurate as I can get for it
 
Canuckles said:
Does anyone know what this is? Came off my bike during the crash went and picked up the part and my go pro chin mount from the crash site
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Doesn't look like a bike part and the wear/damage would make me think it spent some time on the road. Any other distinguishing features on the part? It sort of looks like a huge Marette.
 
Lightcycle said:
+1 on finding out the root cause. Especially if there are other motorcycles or vehicles able to ride/drive the same spot you went down on without crashing. It will point out the error that *you* personally made, either mechanical (bald tires in the rain), or skills-based (too much speed/grabbing front brake/too much throttle out of the turn). It's good to have this knowledge so you can avoid repeating it again.

IMO, "don't ride in the rain" is not a valid lesson to be gained here. Plenty of riders ride in all sorts of inclement conditions, on gravel/sand on the road, rain, snow and ice and manage to keep their bikes upright.
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It was my poor wording that did me in I’m not the type to just say ya bad luck and leave it at that. I’ve been back to the crash site twice and tried my best to deconstruct the accident from the moment I entered the turn to the moment I lost traction to the moment the bike stopped sliding
 
Canuckles said:
Hey guys on my way to work today I had my first slider. Back tire slid out from under me just after making a turn slipped out from under me. I’m alright a few small scrapes, I had my gear on so that limited the damage. Bikes alright I was able to ride it home but looks like I might’ve clipped a coolant line, need a new bar end for my left handle bar and new clutch lever. Other than that I’m pretty lucky that’s all I got away with. Hope everyone rides safe today
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My bad on the poor wording of some of my comments I must add I posted this like 10 mins after the accident I was still shaken up. I’m not putting the blame on road conditions (they may have contributed to the outcome but weren’t the root cause) I have gone back to the site twice and tried to get a mental picture of everything that happened from the time I started the turn to the point my bike stopped sliding. The result was my fault without a doubt whether it was my poor reaction to the first slip or my inputs that caused the first slip the outcome was that I lowsided
 
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Jampy00 said:
Riding in wet conditions is always a crap shoot as the rain brings a lot of the oil, fuel etc. to the surface.
My assumption is that you hit a "oily" patch during your turn, thinking back were you in the center of the lane or on the side?
These are the lessons that we learn. When I first started riding I rode in every type of weather and had many close calls, now that I am older I'm a little more picky when I ride to try to ensure the best outcome.
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I turned into the left tire track. My best guess is either I added too much throttle too soon and didn’t correct it before the tire slid out or I hit a slippery patch and didn’t correct it in time
 
Canuckles said:
My bad didn’t mean to make it sound like I was kicking all the blame off myself I just went to the crash scene for a mental debrief and there was a lot I could’ve done. My best idea of what happened is as I exited the turn and started to speed up to road speeds I hit a wet or oily patch and tire skidded. Before I had time to correct it properly since I think from the time it skidded to the time I hit the ground was maybe a few hundred milliseconds, I didn’t get a chance to reduce throttle or I added more throttle and it slid out from under me. I marked down the skid marks in the ground for reference but I think that’s about as accurate as I can get for it
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If anyone has any ideas to add based on what I was able to provide let me know. Just tryna get the clearest idea of what I did and what I could’ve done
 
Canuckles said:
If anyone has any ideas to add based on what I was able to provide let me know. Just tryna get the clearest idea of what I did and what I could’ve done
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You mentioned a chin camera. Did you happen to catch this? I wouldn't necessarily post the video as you don't want to give insurance companies something to get their claws into.
 
GreyGhost said:
You mentioned a chin camera. Did you happen to catch this? I wouldn't necessarily post the video as you don't want to give insurance companies something to get their claws into.
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Didn’t have the go pro mounted at the time so unfortunately y’all only have my word to go off of. I’m not going through my insurance on this one as I don’t think any mechanical repairs will be more than $300. Maybe closer to $1k on cosmetic stuff but that’s stuff I’ll deal with later on I’d rather deal with any possible mechanical issues
 
Canuckles said:
If anyone has any ideas to add based on what I was able to provide let me know. Just tryna get the clearest idea of what I did and what I could’ve done
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If I was to guess, it sounds like you gave it too much gas as you exited the corner and the rear slid out from under you. Common mistake.

If you're a beginner, when you encounter slippery surfaces, slow everything down and keep your inputs smooth. Keep your corner entry speed slow. Do all your braking in a straight line. Then as you round the corner, no brakes or throttle, keep a neutral speed. Try to keep the bike as upright as you can. As you exit the corner, add more throttle smoothly, avoid being choppy with the throttle. Any sudden inputs with throttle or brakes will likely result in the tires breaking traction which is no bueno.

As you get more advanced, you can lean the bike more and carry more speed in the corners by counter-weighting the bike as it leans into the turn, dirt bike style. This means leaning your body away from the turn, so that if the bike slides out, your body weight is right on top of the bike and the contact patch of your tires, instead of inside the turn.

If your body weight is inside the turn when the tires lose grip, it'll make the bike slide out from under you that much faster.

If your body weight is over the bike and tires when you lose grip, you can ride the slide out. In the dirt, this is super fun, goosing the throttle and power-sliding the rear out of corners.
 
Canuckles said:
Didn’t have the go pro mounted at the time so unfortunately y’all only have my word to go off of. I’m not going through my insurance on this one as I don’t think any mechanical repairs will be more than $300. Maybe closer to $1k on cosmetic stuff but that’s stuff I’ll deal with later on I’d rather deal with any possible mechanical issues
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You do not want to go through or even report this to insurance. It is a single vehicle accident that you will be deemed 100% at fault.
You will not be able to afford insurance for many years.
 
Lightcycle said:
If I was to guess, it sounds like you gave it too much gas as you exited the corner and the rear slid out from under you. Common mistake.

If you're a beginner, when you encounter slippery surfaces, slow everything down and keep your inputs smooth. Keep your corner entry speed slow. Do all your braking in a straight line. Then as you round the corner, no brakes or throttle, keep a neutral speed. Try to keep the bike as upright as you can. As you exit the corner, add more throttle smoothly, avoid being choppy with the throttle. Any sudden inputs with throttle or brakes will likely result in the tires breaking traction which is no bueno.

As you get more advanced, you can lean the bike more and carry more speed in the corners by counter-weighting the bike as it leans into the turn, dirt bike style. This means leaning your body away from the turn, so that if the bike slides out, your body weight is right on top of the bike and the contact patch of your tires, instead of inside the turn.

If your body weight is inside the turn when the tires lose grip, it'll make the bike slide out from under you that much faster.

If your body weight is over the bike and tires when you lose grip, you can ride the slide out. In the dirt, this is super fun, goosing the throttle and power-sliding the rear out of corners.
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Very likely that’s what happened I didn’t think I put too much but then again if I didn’t put too much I’d be at work right now and not with a scratched up bike lol
 
MacDoc said:
Done any off pavement riding???
Something like the MotoPark course will do wonders for your street riding
or this SMART Adventures NEW
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Nah honestly just been riding to work live out just about 3,000km on it in like 2 and a half months first time anything like this has happened to me normally I have no issues in the rain so maybe today was just a mental skill issue whatever it was I’ll try and make sure it doesn’t happen again
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